2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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FerdiFuchs wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 17:38
KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 17:27
Thoughts ?

Great if it was on full tank, not so good when it was medium tank
Stroll did full tank yesterday..around 1.38.5 lap times
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If I had to guess, I'd say the order is something like:

Red Bull

Ferrari
Mclaren, Aston, Merc > Think this group is super tight
RB2
Alpine/Williams
Hass/Sauber

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jofs89 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:17
If I had to guess, I'd say the order is something like:

Red Bull

Ferrari
Mclaren, Aston, Merc > Think this group is super tight
RB2
Alpine/Williams
Hass/Sauber
I agree with that.

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Most likely will get it wrong but i think:
Red Bull (0.6), Ferrari (0.35), McLaren (0.2), Mercedes (not sure, could be close)

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KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:30
Most likely will get it wrong but i think:
Red Bull (0.6), Ferrari (0.35), McLaren (0.2), Mercedes (not sure, could be close)
Christ, let's hope not. That'd be one depressing season...

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jofs89 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:33
KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:30
Most likely will get it wrong but i think:
Red Bull (0.6), Ferrari (0.35), McLaren (0.2), Mercedes (not sure, could be close)
Christ, let's hope not. That'd be one depressing season...
tenths ahead of Aston i mean, not gaps between them

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KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:14
jofs89 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:33
KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:30
Most likely will get it wrong but i think:
Red Bull (0.6), Ferrari (0.35), McLaren (0.2), Mercedes (not sure, could be close)
Christ, let's hope not. That'd be one depressing season...
tenths ahead of Aston i mean, not gaps between them
fwiw, I think the point still stands...
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r85 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:14
r85 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:44
James Allison on F1 TV:
1. Red Bull
2. Mercedes and Ferrari
3. Aston Martin

He says Mercedes are slightly ahead of Ferrari on race pace and behind on one lap pace.
https://www.motorpasion.com/formula1/fe ... omo-pasado

...According to Alonso, "the new car is better than last year's, that's a fact. We have corrected some things and made progress in others. **The problem is that the mid-range is at a very high level**". And it is especially the irruption of Racing Bulls, the Red Bull subsidiary team, that is altering everything. Getting into Q3 is going to be very expensive.


Alonso is going to Mercedes.
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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:21
r85 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:14
r85 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 18:44
James Allison on F1 TV:
1. Red Bull
2. Mercedes and Ferrari
3. Aston Martin

He says Mercedes are slightly ahead of Ferrari on race pace and behind on one lap pace.
https://www.motorpasion.com/formula1/fe ... omo-pasado

...According to Alonso, "the new car is better than last year's, that's a fact. We have corrected some things and made progress in others. **The problem is that the mid-range is at a very high level**". And it is especially the irruption of Racing Bulls, the Red Bull subsidiary team, that is altering everything. Getting into Q3 is going to be very expensive.


Alonso is going to Mercedes.
He sure not,because Mercedes worse than Aston. You really didn't watched the test? Alonso at C3 compared to Redbull just was 0.4s slower. What is interesting that Alonso at C3 at 1st sector was the fastest ,even faster than C4 guys. The 1st and the 3th sector is the same so he should be almost the fastest there also but wasn't, which tell us the truth. In my calculations Aston 0.350 sec slower on C3 than Redbull. At C1 long run Alonso was fenomenal mich better than Mclaren. The top speed also amazing, so I'm 90% sure that Alonso will be on podium at Bahrain if nothing unexpected happens. They made an amazing job at winter!

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:52
AR3-GP wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:21
r85 wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:14


https://www.motorpasion.com/formula1/fe ... omo-pasado

...According to Alonso, "the new car is better than last year's, that's a fact. We have corrected some things and made progress in others. **The problem is that the mid-range is at a very high level**". And it is especially the irruption of Racing Bulls, the Red Bull subsidiary team, that is altering everything. Getting into Q3 is going to be very expensive.


Alonso is going to Mercedes.
He sure not,because Mercedes worse than Aston. You really didn't watched the test? Alonso at C3 compared to Redbull just was 0.4s slower. What is interesting that Alonso at C3 at 1st sector was the fastest ,even faster than C4 guys. The 1st and the 3th sector is the same so he should be almost the fastest there also but wasn't, which tell us the truth. In my calculations Aston 0.350 sec slower on C3 than Redbull. At C1 long run Alonso was fenomenal mich better than Mclaren. The top speed also amazing, so I'm 90% sure that Alonso will be on podium at Bahrain if nothing unexpected happens. They made an amazing job at winter!
Alonso said it himself above. "Q3 will be expensive", and Mercedes is reportedly level with Ferrari.

We will see, but AM do not seem confident right now unless this is the almightiest bluff from Alonso
A lion must kill its prey.

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its similar to last year where aston martin were better in race trim compared to 1 lap pace. only red bull were better in that regard. until aston martin tailed off

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AR3-GP wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:53
Alonso said it himself above. "Q3 will be expensive", and Mercedes is reportedly level with Ferrari.

We will see, but AM do not seem confident right now unless this is the almightiest bluff from Alonso
More than what Alonso says you have to look at his body language. For example in 2023 he was also being cautious in his public statements and saying difficult races at the start because he had to get used to the car etc... but every time he spoke there was a smile on his face that he couldn't hide despite him trying. This time from what we have seen is that his body language is poor and other journalists have also commented on that fact...
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Estimated race pace according to @MST_Formel1

Aston Martin 0.55s behind Redbull
but it’s still testing…

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KimiRai wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 20:03
AR3-GP wrote:
23 Feb 2024, 19:53
Alonso said it himself above. "Q3 will be expensive", and Mercedes is reportedly level with Ferrari.

We will see, but AM do not seem confident right now unless this is the almightiest bluff from Alonso
More than what Alonso says you have to look at his body language. For example in 2023 he was also being cautious in his public statements and saying difficult races at the start because he had to get used to the car etc... but every time he spoke there was a smile on his face that he couldn't hide despite him trying. This time from what we have seen is that his body language is poor and other journalists have also commented on that fact...
Interesting, so I have to apologize for misquoting Alonso. He didn't say the "Q3 is expensive" part. That looks like journalist spin.

Maybe it's not as bad as it looks but I trust you've seen a Alonso over the years. Sad if true.
A lion must kill its prey.