2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Silent Storm]

According to Julien Fabreau, who is known to frequently chat to Pierre Waché, it seems the problem of slow speed cornering has been eliminated with the rb20. However riding kerbs remains the weakest point

AFAIK wheels are heavier this year which means more unsprung mass so it’s going to be difficult to balance softer setup for riding kerbs and stiff enough for high speed, not to mention RB20 has high Cg (central cooling, heavier liquid cooling) compared to RB19 which again requires stiffer setup.

I’m delighted that they fixed low speed but is it at the cost of high speed or medium speed? Time will tell.

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According to Julien Fabreau, who is known to frequently chat to Pierre Waché, it seems the problem of slow speed cornering has been eliminated with the rb20. However riding kerbs remains the weakest point

AFAIK wheels are heavier this year which means more unsprung mass so it’s going to be difficult to balance softer setup for riding kerbs and stiff enough for high speed, not to mention RB20 has high Cg (central cooling, heavier liquid cooling) compared to RB19 which again requires stiffer setup.

I’m delighted that they fixed low speed but is it at the cost of high speed or medium speed? Time will tell.

They wouldn't compromise their main strength. From data it looks like they're still strong in the higher speed corners @ Bahrain. But we'll see come quali on Friday

[Jdn1327]

According to Julien Fabreau, who is known to frequently chat to Pierre Waché, it seems the problem of slow speed cornering has been eliminated with the rb20. However riding kerbs remains the weakest point

AFAIK wheels are heavier this year which means more unsprung mass so it’s going to be difficult to balance softer setup for riding kerbs and stiff enough for high speed, not to mention RB20 has high Cg (central cooling, heavier liquid cooling) compared to RB19 which again requires stiffer setup.

I’m delighted that they fixed low speed but is it at the cost of high speed or medium speed? Time will tell.

The redbull looked the best at riding the Curbs to be fair. So if that's their weakness I feel very sorry for other teams. The car handles unsprung weight and the transfer of weight very very well from what I've seen.

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AMuS after testing:

Perez crept through the paddock with a depressed face. The teammate was on average six to seven tenths faster. “Perez has to get Max out of his head and run his own program,” advises Marko. The Mexican is already getting nervous about his future plans. He is positioning himself everywhere in case he loses his place at Red Bull. And no one wants to go there voluntarily.

[AR3-GP]

So I wasn't the only one who thought Perez's pace was poor.

The troubling part is that this is one of Perez's best circuits.

Slightly sour if no solution to kerb riding.

[venkyhere]

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So I wasn't the only one who thought Perez's pace was poor.

The troubling part is that this is one of Perez's best circuits.

Slightly sour if no solution to kerb riding.

To be fair max said the car will be good at street tracks, So I wouldn't read "the weakness is still riding kerbs" as "there has been no improvement to kerb riding".

I think with a car that is focused on producing a lot of DF like RB do it simply requires running stiffer with these cars. Ferrari and this year to an extent AMR seem to run softer but at the expense of the higher speed cornering. Considering the calendar as a whole that isn't really a worthwhile tradeoff, as we saw with the rb19

[Henri]

marko not happy.. Perez will be replaced by Daniel if he underperforms in the car

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Yeah that test was quite poor from Perez unfortunately. Good mileage but last year in testing he at least put in a good showing. However this year I scarcely remember a purple minisector from Checo despite running, to my eye, comparable programs to max

He wasn't down on power or anything. Just seemed to lack confidence

[chrisc90]

Ill give Perez until weekend 2 or maybe 3 to see what he's like in comparison to Max this year (in terms of how far behind).
Only testing at the minute so we dont know the run plans etc, but we'll see. If he's too far behind - I dont expect him to last long in the main team.

Does anyone know if the rules allow DR to swap with Perez for a few races and swap back?

[AR3-GP]

Ill give Perez until weekend 2 or maybe 3 to see what he's like in comparison to Max this year (in terms of how far behind).
Only testing at the minute so we dont know the run plans etc, but we'll see. If he's too far behind - I dont expect him to last long in the main team.

Does anyone know if the rules allow DR to swap with Perez for a few races and swap back?

Bahrain is one of Perez's best circuits. If he's not competitive here, it is maybe worth a seat swap...

[Rikhart]

What were you people expecting? He had an absolutely abysmal year this past season, it will only go downhill. He's not getting younger, he's on 4 children I think at this point (good for him, best thing there is, but they do take up a lot of your processing power!)...

[vorticism]

viewtopic.php?p=1190551#p1190551 cross posting from another thread, since content is valid for this thread as well.

If evaluated by the RV-Sidepod legality volume only, both RB20 & W13/14 achieved a zeropod: there was nothing above nor below the upper SIS shroud. There are other ways to define what the term means and there's no consensus yet apparently.

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For me a zeropod would be no undercut plus mid wing containing the upper SIS

[Vanja #66]

Does anyone know if the rules allow DR to swap with Perez for a few races and swap back?

As far as I'm aware, every team can name up to 4 different drivers to race every season, so it's possible. Lawson was Ric's replacement while Ric was injured, same rules in that case. Though, swapping back and forth is not how you evaluate drivers, you have simulators, tyre tests and FP sessions to do that. Going back and forth means messing up both drivers, period.