I think, potentially, they could use the extensive data they collected on the different configurations to predict which is the way to go ahead of every weekend. Just a guess though.
I first thought it would be track specific, but having just watched an interview with Allison I'm not so sure.
This would seem smart right? I'm sure there's an advantage to being able to switch anti-dive from weekend to weekend.
First mentioned here. And a few posts after that discussing.atanatizante wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 12:24It seems that on the last day of testing, they changed even the front upper rear leg wishbone to test the anti-squat, as Allison said to Lawrence Barretto because it was the only chance they had this year to do this kind of testing ...
Has anyone got some pictures to prove those rear suspension changes they made?
One piece of evidence could be to spot at the rear of the car the same panel they`ve designed for the upper back arm at the front suspension ...
Could you be more specific and point me to where it was discussed about the anti-squat (which prevents rearwards pitching under acceleration) changes they made? Coz I read the second time now and didn`t get any info about that ...chrisc90 wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 12:28First mentioned here. And a few posts after that discussing.atanatizante wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 12:24It seems that on the last day of testing, they changed even the front upper rear leg wishbone to test the anti-squat, as Allison said to Lawrence Barretto because it was the only chance they had this year to do this kind of testing ...
Has anyone got some pictures to prove those rear suspension changes they made?
One piece of evidence could be to spot at the rear of the car the same panel they`ve designed for the upper back arm at the front suspension ...
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The ultimate aim of geometry "conflict" is to keep the platform stable (obvious aerodynamic advantage could be there) while separation of this function from conventional spring rate etc to achieve it.
The purpose of the stable platform is to keep a stable aerodynamics of the floor. Keep the suction of the car controlled so to speak.Farnborough wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:02
The ultimate aim of geometry "conflict" is to keep the platform stable (obvious aerodynamic advantage could be there) while separation of this function from conventional spring rate etc to achieve it.
So that implies that they could run softer spring rates now to have a car more compliant over the kerbs?Farnborough wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:02
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Obviously, they are interrelated, but that's the reasoning generally. In other words, IF you can keep the aero platform stable from this effect, then there's more room to play with spring rates for things like curb compliance, etc.
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I've said that (in brackets) about aero stability, some will be remembering intentional acceptance of dropping the front to induce front wing interaction with the ground though....and one of the reason this aero rule set lifts the front wing to avoid that characteristic.Espresso wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:40The purpose of the stable platform is to keep a stable aerodynamics of the floor. Keep the suction of the car controlled so to speak.Farnborough wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:02
The ultimate aim of geometry "conflict" is to keep the platform stable (obvious aerodynamic advantage could be there) while separation of this function from conventional spring rate etc to achieve it.
Max suction in the corners and less at high speed.
MB had to find it out the hard way as budget constraints doesn’t give them the luxury anymore to tryout all options.
You can still see they are not there yet the way the car is still hopping. Just less but at a higher frequency. They are getting there.
Thats the aim in suspension generally as I understand it. We're unlikely to get those details of course being outside that loop of technical enactment.atanatizante wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:50So that implies that they could run softer spring rates now to have a car more compliant over the kerbs?Farnborough wrote: ↑24 Feb 2024, 13:02
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Obviously, they are interrelated, but that's the reasoning generally. In other words, IF you can keep the aero platform stable from this effect, then there's more room to play with spring rates for things like curb compliance, etc.
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Furthermore, knowing that they`ve designed the car around the anti-dive and anti-squat concept it means they now also have the dual-rate springs/dampers that RB has been deploying since 2022, isn`t it?