Piquet - GONE!!! (At Last???)

[ESPImperium]

http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2009/8/9719.html
http://f1.gpupdate.net/en/news/2009/08/ ... -ditch-me/

[jonathan189]

Piquet is gone, yes. And with an embarrassing outburst:

http://www.planetf1.com/story/0,18954,3 ... 17,00.html

The bottom line is that he wasn't good enough. He was outqualified 27-1 by Alonso, and the 1 was when Alonso got caught in the rain at the Nurburgring. He went off the track more often than any other driver on the grid. Time to give Grosjean a chance.

[chasefreak]

this should have happened last year it self
he sucked big time
renault u guys r lazy.... learn to act fast on things

and try and buy ya self out of a bad investment ASAP..( future tip)

[jddh1]

this should have happened last year it self
he sucked big time
renault u guys r lazy.... learn to act fast on things

and try and buy ya self out of a bad investment ASAP..( future tip)

they won't need that tip. they won't be in f1 that long now.

[ISLAMATRON]

it is a death sentence for any young driver's career to go to Renault while Alonso is there, 2007 showed he is beatable, but definitely not while Flav has his back.

How many drivers have been thru there since Alonso's een in the #1 seat?

Truilli(who got the better of Alonso sometimes)
JV
Fisi
NP Jr
and now Grosjean, good luck to him, doubt they will even give him a chance to succeed, FA's ego is just too weak to have a good second driver.

[bhall]

Piquet makes a compelling case in his post-dismissal letter. He certainly has the credentials to be successful in Formula 1, but for whatever reason, it simply did not happen with Renault.

And I'd be willing to bet that that reason is the prima donna, Fernando Alonso. We all witnessed what happened in 2007 when he was with McLaren and his teammate was given equal treatment. Alonso lost his composure at every possible opportunity and behaved like a selfish child because he wasn't given the demigod status previously given to him at Renault. It's safe to say that his reputation took a big hit as a result.

As a Ferrari fan, I obviously don't necessarily object to unequal treatment of drivers. History has shown that it can yield great results. But the sad reality of such situations is that a good driver is often left by the wayside. I think that's exactly what happened to Piquet.

I hope he can catch on with another team.

And I pray and pray and pray that all those Alonso-to-Ferrari rumors remain just that: rumors.

[WhiteBlue]

Grosjean, good luck to him, doubt they will even give him a chance to succeed, FA's ego is just too weak to have a good second driver.

+1

[toto1041]

good riddance

[ESPImperium]

Personally, what i think Renault need to do is take on a driver that can challange Alsonso. Shurly having all the resources toward one driver it can be counter productive to the team. Personally, if Alonso stays at Renault for 2010, i hope to hell they get Kubica or Heidfeld from BMW Sauber or even Rossberg in there. The need a driver that can push Alonso, one that can get the best out of the car, also provide equal equiptment to each driver at each race.

Next on the hit-list, sorry i mean good riddance list; Kazuki Crashajima.

[vall]

Piquet makes a compelling case in his post-dismissal letter. He certainly has the credentials to be successful in Formula 1, but for whatever reason, it simply did not happen with Renault.

To be successful in F1 is tough. To have the potential to do so is one thing, to actually be successful is another.

And I'd be willing to bet that that reason is the prima donna, Fernando Alonso. We all witnessed what happened in 2007 when he was with McLaren and his teammate was given equal treatment. Alonso lost his composure at every possible opportunity and behaved like a selfish child because he wasn't given the demigod status previously given to him at Renault. It's safe to say that his reputation took a big hit as a result.

Perhaps, they did not get equal treatment? I hope the truth will come out one day. I also hope that Rubens will write his autobiography and tell us what really happened in Ferrari.

As a Ferrari fan, I obviously don't necessarily object to unequal treatment of drivers. History has shown that it can yield great results. But the sad reality of such situations is that a good driver is often left by the wayside. I think that's exactly what happened to Piquet.

IMO, "unequal treatment of drivers" is fundamentally wrong and should not be tolerated. But unfortunately, this happens. They way out is that we get 26 teams with 1 car each

[DaveKillens]

This is another sad tale that sometimes comes out of Formula One. A promising driver who has great creditentials somehow falls short, and is now on the outside looking in. It's amazing how history repreats itself.

Part of this sad story stems from what is considered acceptable by many, the "team" concept pioneered and perfected by Ferrari, where one driver is definitely seconded to the primary driver, and his only purpose in life is to support the primary driver's quest for the title. As long as this practics continues, a driver's career may be determined by team politics rather than their driving abilities.

[RacingManiac]

Part of this sad story stems from what is considered acceptable by many, the "team" concept pioneered and perfected by Ferrari, where one driver is definitely seconded to the primary driver, and his only purpose in life is to support the primary driver's quest for the title. As long as this practics continues, a driver's career may be determined by team politics rather than their driving abilities.

True, except its not pioneered by Ferrari, but used in F1 since day one, when team order consists of giving your car to the team leader when his car breaks down.....

[vall]

Part of this sad story stems from what is considered acceptable by many, the "team" concept pioneered and perfected by Ferrari, where one driver is definitely seconded to the primary driver, and his only purpose in life is to support the primary driver's quest for the title. As long as this practics continues, a driver's career may be determined by team politics rather than their driving abilities.

True, except its not pioneered by Ferrari, but used in F1 since day one, when team order consists of giving your car to the team leader when his car breaks down.....

Right! What about Williams in the early 1990s?

[machin]

"Team orders" are here to stay and I say it only fair; the teams spend millions of pounds runing two cars in the attempt win the manufacturer's and driver's championships. If they feel that this is best achived by putting all their eggs in one basket and having the second driver support the first then I say good luck to them.... this tactic can work... or it can back-fire, for example when Schumy had his accident at Silverstone a decade ago which effectively ended his year.

Besides, the best drivers are given number one status and therefore if you're a number two driver there's only one reason for this; you're not good enough to be number one!

If Piquet was consistantly out-pacing or even equalling Alonso even with clear number 2 status do you think any manufacturer would continue to back the number one driver? Of course not, they'd swap the drivers and give the "number 2" the "number 1" status..... Its dog eat dog... the not-so-good drivers have two choices; either join a good team as a number 2 driver or join another team (with potentially a worse car).....

[Ray]

It's one thing to get fired for not performing, but it's another to point fingers. I wish he'd quit being so bitchy and get on with his life. He sucked. Not having the same upgrades to your car doesn't make you end up in the gravel so often. Good riddance.