2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

[Redragon]

might be the temperature of the track?, it was way colder today than last week.

[KimiRai]

For now, Aston Martin is proving to be a fast car over a single lap , also helped by a more advanced mapping compared to Red Bull and Ferrari, but which suffers a little more degradation in race pace.

https://formu1a.uno/analisi-fp2-top-tea ... ancora-no/

Opposite of what we saw in the preseason tests, where it looked to suffer a little more on one lap but have a better race pace

[Macklaren]

Shaping up to be another year that Aston should (in theory) rue the weakness of the 2nd seat

[SSJ4]

im not reading much into it. the fp2 run was done c3 compound. more interested in tyre deg during the race with c1/c2 thats where the aston is unleashed properly in race trim

[jofs89]

Is it just me or does Alonso's body language seem like he's a bit disappointed in the post FP2 interview? Seemed a bit happier in most interviews I saw last year. Maybe they thought they really had a car to really challenge pre testing?

[AR3-GP]

Is it just me or does Alonso's body language seem like he's a bit disappointed in the post FP2 interview? Seemed a bit happier in most interviews I saw last year. Maybe they thought they really had a car to really challenge pre testing?

If FP2 is anything to go by, RB, Ferrari, Mclaren, and Mercedes are ahead. That leaves Alonso in P9. Things could be worse. He could still be at Alpine...

If Aston thinks they'll hold on to him with this effort...

[jofs89]

Is it just me or does Alonso's body language seem like he's a bit disappointed in the post FP2 interview? Seemed a bit happier in most interviews I saw last year. Maybe they thought they really had a car to really challenge pre testing?

If FP2 is anything to go by, RB, Ferrari, Mclaren, and Mercedes are ahead. That leaves Alonso in P9. Things could be worse. He could still be at Alpine...

If Aston thinks they'll hold on to him with this effort...

The margins appear quite close though. Looks like That order could be changed by a combination of conditions, track layout, tyre choice etc. development will be massive this year to keep him. He's got to have an eye on that Merc seat though if they end up looking like genuine challengers.

[auem123]

im not reading much into it. the fp2 run was done c3 compound. more interested in tyre deg during the race with c1/c2 thats where the aston is unleashed properly in race trim

I doubt C1 will be used. C2 and C3 are enough for the race. Degradation was good for other teams.
I am also not giving much importance to that race data. We have seen many a time Merc being poor in FP2, only to be super racy during race last years. Considering it is the first race, they may well be testing the set up. At worse, they will sacrifice qualifying pace for race pace.

[collindsilva]

Seems strange that long run pace offchart within a week, either they were running on heavy fuel load or conservative.
we will get to know this weekend.
However, the car should be good base for development..

[Chuckjr]

Fred will go to Merc if they take him. They simply are a better team and will out develop Aston. The last 3 years have humbled Merc, and they will be the better for it. Fred’s talk that he’s evaluating both Aston and Merc all year is just smart politics so he doesn’t torpedo the year at Aston like Ham did at Merc. Granted, Ham had to announce because he had to escape contract binds, but a torpedo is a torpedo at the end of the day, and Fred simply had better political options to exploit than Ham.

But yea, Fred is gone to Merc if Toto takes him.

[yinlad]

Fred will go to Merc if they take him. They simply are a better team and will out develop Aston. The last 3 years have humbled Merc, and they will be the better for it. Fred’s talk that he’s evaluating both Aston and Merc all year is just smart politics so he doesn’t torpedo the year at Aston like Ham did at Merc. Granted, Ham had to announce because he had to escape contract binds, but a torpedo is a torpedo at the end of the day, and Fred simply had better political options to exploit than Ham.

But yea, Fred is gone to Merc if Toto takes him.

For a single year contract? If they were keeping Lewis on a short leash they aren't giving Alonso anything longer and that was a large part of him leaving Alpine. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this Merc narrative

[Chuckjr]

Fred will go to Merc if they take him. They simply are a better team and will out develop Aston. The last 3 years have humbled Merc, and they will be the better for it. Fred’s talk that he’s evaluating both Aston and Merc all year is just smart politics so he doesn’t torpedo the year at Aston like Ham did at Merc. Granted, Ham had to announce because he had to escape contract binds, but a torpedo is a torpedo at the end of the day, and Fred simply had better political options to exploit than Ham.

But yea, Fred is gone to Merc if Toto takes him.

For a single year contract? If they were keeping Lewis on a short leash they aren't giving Alonso anything longer and that was a large part of him leaving Alpine. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this Merc narrative

Because it makes sense.
No. Two year. They need Fred for development in 2026. They need a veteran who can give feedback and can help them build a car for Kimi. I don’t think Kimi goes to Merc next year. He’s a child. Put him in the Williams. Give him a year or two like normal drivers. Don’t spoil him early. Could ruin his career. Keep the veteran as development and then put Kimi in a winner in 2027.

[organic]

im not reading much into it. the fp2 run was done c3 compound. more interested in tyre deg during the race with c1/c2 thats where the aston is unleashed properly in race trim

I doubt C1 will be used. C2 and C3 are enough for the race. Degradation was good for other teams.
I am also not giving much importance to that race data. We have seen many a time Merc being poor in FP2, only to be super racy during race last years. Considering it is the first race, they may well be testing the set up. At worse, they will sacrifice qualifying pace for race pace.

The C2 is bad which is why they all used it so much in fp1

[Skywalker12]

Everyone improved, AMR stayed about the same, doesn't look good for them

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[Redragon]

Fred will go to Merc if they take him. They simply are a better team and will out develop Aston. The last 3 years have humbled Merc, and they will be the better for it. Fred’s talk that he’s evaluating both Aston and Merc all year is just smart politics so he doesn’t torpedo the year at Aston like Ham did at Merc. Granted, Ham had to announce because he had to escape contract binds, but a torpedo is a torpedo at the end of the day, and Fred simply had better political options to exploit than Ham.

But yea, Fred is gone to Merc if Toto takes him.

For a single year contract? If they were keeping Lewis on a short leash they aren't giving Alonso anything longer and that was a large part of him leaving Alpine. Not sure why everyone is so obsessed with this Merc narrative

Because it makes sense.
No. Two year. They need Fred for development in 2026. They need a veteran who can give feedback and can help them build a car for Kimi. I don’t think Kimi goes to Merc next year. He’s a child. Put him in the Williams. Give him a year or two like normal drivers. Don’t spoil him early. Could ruin his career. Keep the veteran as development and then put Kimi in a winner in 2027.

Let’s see how the cars are on June and we will have better idea if he moves or not. Also have been speaking of retirement because calendar is too long. But fir now with all the investment and who is behind the design team don’t think he will move to Mercedes