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xReVo wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 02:52
The point guys is that we shouldn't discuss how much Aston Martin is trying to improve, because it's obvious. They are spending a lot of money on the structures and even this year's car you can tell is an extreme concept. So they are not limited to small improvements. But we are faced with two types of people: are you a fan of Alonso or Aston Martin? I find myself in the first case and I know well that he will be able to race until 2026. We have to thank Aston Martin very much for what they gave to Alonso last year, but the truth is that this year can already be thrown away, Redbull is unattainable . I knew in the tests that they were ahead but not 1 second per lap as I saw in Bahrain, therefore the world championship can be thrown away this year. Alonso will race until 2026 at the latest, he must decide which is his best opportunity, for next year the best choices are Mercedes and Redbull, for 2026 Mercedes or the unknown Aston Martin. This is the real dilemma.
As much as I like Alonso, I think that kind of commentary belongs in a another forum. This is the Aston TEAM thread, not the Alonso thread. Plus you have no idea if Alonso will finish higher than 1 or both Merc's this year. You're just guessing. The odds are pretty close to even in my books.

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Too early to say but seems like what Ferraris were last year. Good one lap but not so fast over the longer runs. Maybe it’s setup related or the amr24’s fundamental weakness.

Good drive from stroll and Alonsos last stint was really good too. Let’s see if team can fix it via setup changes or upgrades are needed to iron this out.

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3rd best lap of the race by Alonso on lap 48, 1:34:2.
In general, the stint after 2nd pit was quite fast. It means that AMR24 is clumsy with full tanks (test stints were not on full)

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Kamel wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 07:44
3rd best lap of the race by Alonso on lap 48, 1:34:2.
In general, the stint after 2nd pit was quite fast. It means that AMR24 is clumsy with full tanks (test stints were not on full)
The reason why they were faster than everyone else on the last stint is cause their tires were fresher, since they were one of the last ones to change them. Mentioned above, as per De la Rosa, is that they have a problem keeping a consistent ride height. It's especially bad when heavy. These cars get all their DF from the floor, so obviously, that is a problem.

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Should be related to the new suspension, maybe needs time to understand and do proper setup.. we should know by next 2 races the actual potential....

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I guess Matt Harman could be a good fit, looking at the 2026 regs, as he was head of power train integration and transmission design for Mercedes in their "golden era".

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diffuser wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 08:45
Kamel wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 07:44
3rd best lap of the race by Alonso on lap 48, 1:34:2.
In general, the stint after 2nd pit was quite fast. It means that AMR24 is clumsy with full tanks (test stints were not on full)
The reason why they were faster than everyone else on the last stint is cause their tires were fresher, since they were one of the last ones to change them. Mentioned above, as per De la Rosa, is that they have a problem keeping a consistent ride height. It's especially bad when heavy. These cars get all their DF from the floor, so obviously, that is a problem.
New rear suspension ..

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https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... uning.html

According to the information gathered, there is some dissatisfaction within the factory, as the objective was quite different. Reason for the disappointment? The great work put together on the tuning of the single-seater.

Three free practice sessions spent on understanding the car in order to increase its performance in high-fuel configuration. A precise set-up to optimise the car with so much petrol on board that in fact did not pay off and on the contrary deceived.

However, which was confirmed to us just yesterday: the fine tuning on the AMR24 was incorrect. Not functional, in short. But the good news is that the team has apparently understood why and has already been working since Saturday evening to correct this situation.

Does this mean that in Jeddah the car will be strong and everything will go right? Theory says so, but as we know, it will only be the track that will confirm the goodness of the measures to 'cure' the AMR24. On the other hand, we know very well that in F1 you don't gain tenths overnight.

Having 'learned their lesson', as they say, 'by the book', the technicians led by the Luxembourgian engineer will present themselves in Jeddah, in a few days' time, with much clearer ideas.

Among other things, the intention is to minimise a certain understeer attitude, with a lot of oversteer coming out of corners, which since pre-season has bedevilled the drivers' handling, limiting the potential of the car wrapped in British racing green.

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SSJ4 wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 12:51
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... uning.html

According to the information gathered, there is some dissatisfaction within the factory, as the objective was quite different. Reason for the disappointment? The great work put together on the tuning of the single-seater.

Three free practice sessions spent on understanding the car in order to increase its performance in high-fuel configuration. A precise set-up to optimise the car with so much petrol on board that in fact did not pay off and on the contrary deceived.

However, which was confirmed to us just yesterday: the fine tuning on the AMR24 was incorrect. Not functional, in short. But the good news is that the team has apparently understood why and has already been working since Saturday evening to correct this situation.

Does this mean that in Jeddah the car will be strong and everything will go right? Theory says so, but as we know, it will only be the track that will confirm the goodness of the measures to 'cure' the AMR24. On the other hand, we know very well that in F1 you don't gain tenths overnight.

Having 'learned their lesson', as they say, 'by the book', the technicians led by the Luxembourgian engineer will present themselves in Jeddah, in a few days' time, with much clearer ideas.

Among other things, the intention is to minimise a certain understeer attitude, with a lot of oversteer coming out of corners, which since pre-season has bedevilled the drivers' handling, limiting the potential of the car wrapped in British racing green.
Why the simulator told them ,that P9 the maximum? Lol so much opposite statements.

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 13:08
SSJ4 wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 12:51
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... uning.html

According to the information gathered, there is some dissatisfaction within the factory, as the objective was quite different. Reason for the disappointment? The great work put together on the tuning of the single-seater.

Three free practice sessions spent on understanding the car in order to increase its performance in high-fuel configuration. A precise set-up to optimise the car with so much petrol on board that in fact did not pay off and on the contrary deceived.

However, which was confirmed to us just yesterday: the fine tuning on the AMR24 was incorrect. Not functional, in short. But the good news is that the team has apparently understood why and has already been working since Saturday evening to correct this situation.

Does this mean that in Jeddah the car will be strong and everything will go right? Theory says so, but as we know, it will only be the track that will confirm the goodness of the measures to 'cure' the AMR24. On the other hand, we know very well that in F1 you don't gain tenths overnight.

Having 'learned their lesson', as they say, 'by the book', the technicians led by the Luxembourgian engineer will present themselves in Jeddah, in a few days' time, with much clearer ideas.

Among other things, the intention is to minimise a certain understeer attitude, with a lot of oversteer coming out of corners, which since pre-season has bedevilled the drivers' handling, limiting the potential of the car wrapped in British racing green.
Why the simulator told them ,that P9 the maximum? Lol so much opposite statements.
Because the race was on Saturday?

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Kamel wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 12:13
diffuser wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 08:45
Kamel wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 07:44
3rd best lap of the race by Alonso on lap 48, 1:34:2.
In general, the stint after 2nd pit was quite fast. It means that AMR24 is clumsy with full tanks (test stints were not on full)
The reason why they were faster than everyone else on the last stint is cause their tires were fresher, since they were one of the last ones to change them. Mentioned above, as per De la Rosa, is that they have a problem keeping a consistent ride height. It's especially bad when heavy. These cars get all their DF from the floor, so obviously, that is a problem.
New rear suspension ..
Front suspension is new as well.

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so what is the chance of AMR in 2024 after first race. I thin in f1 history no one beaten winning team with in season development.

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That article reminds me of the issues they had last season during post Canada updates. Where the trackside engineers and the engineers at the factory had differing opinions on the cars development.

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SSJ4 wrote:
04 Mar 2024, 15:29
That article reminds me of the issues they had last season during post Canada updates. Where the trackside engineers and the engineers at the factory had differing opinions on the cars development.
Trackside engineers, like drivers, give feed back they don't dictate development. They don't have all the tools. They make the most of the current package.

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The car reminds me a bit of the SF 23.

Not easy to get rid of the understeer.