2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[scuderiabrandon]

TD 2.0

How I read it.
Mercedes still have some porpoising issues.
Red Bull have been able to work their floor far better than anyone from day one, that advantage is disappearing.

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

[dia6olo]

TD 2.0

How I read it.
Mercedes still have some porpoising issues.
Red Bull have been able to work their floor far better than anyone from day one, that advantage is disappearing.

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

Yes I recall him saying it

[AmateurDriver]

TD 2.0

How I read it.
Mercedes still have some porpoising issues.
Red Bull have been able to work their floor far better than anyone from day one, that advantage is disappearing.

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

They can raise the floor as much as they want whenever they want. Absolutely no need to be vocal about it.

[codetower]

How I read it.
Mercedes still have some porpoising issues.
Red Bull have been able to work their floor far better than anyone from day one, that advantage is disappearing.

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

They can raise the floor as much as they want whenever they want. Absolutely no need to be vocal about it.

My thoughts precisely! And timed perfectly (again) when Ferrari is the closest challenger.

[Xyz22]

I was thinking about something, looking at a Haas performance in Bahrain.

To me, it seems that all the Teams, minus Red Bull, really didn't fully understand how these cars work until like last year. Ferrari said they made tremendous improvements in Zandvoort after doing very specific tests, which was reflected already in the second half of 2023 despite all the intrinsic limitations of the car.

Haas improvement was insane when you factor in that they started the development of the 2024 car really late after bringing the Austin upgrade package last year. In my opinion it means that they really made a huge step in understanding the aerodynamics of these cars, not just in terms of peak loads (i.e. quali) but also the overall performance. Probably Ferrari work helped them as well.

[CouncilorIrissa]

TD 2.0

Should've foreseen this once I saw Mercedes setup their car with a non-existent ride height in Bahrain.

[zeroday]

TD 2.0

How I read it.
Mercedes still have some porpoising issues.
Red Bull have been able to work their floor far better than anyone from day one, that advantage is disappearing.

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

James Allison in the new MER brief talked about this, saying the sparks are merely due to the positioning of the titanium on the underside vs other teams who have them positioned in other spots, and for the most part was just to make for good spectacles for races (sparks get the media ink). The wood skid part, which is the only important thing, had no issues of scraping -- or trivial. So i gather he was saying MER would just merely had to reposition those titanium things if they wanted to, but not need to raise the height.

[jambuka]

Seems like Ferrari has understood the suspension trick RB has been using for past 2 years.

[organic]

Here is a more biased conspiratorial view, Charles mentioned in an interview before the Bahrain GP how insensitive to bumps he is... another forced rule change to weaken us

They can raise the floor as much as they want whenever they want. Absolutely no need to be vocal about it.

My thoughts precisely! And timed perfectly (again) when Ferrari is the closest challenger.

The quotes and article are aimed at the 2026 rules. Relax guys

[CouncilorIrissa]

They can raise the floor as much as they want whenever they want. Absolutely no need to be vocal about it.

My thoughts precisely! And timed perfectly (again) when Ferrari is the closest challenger.

The quotes and article are aimed at the 2026 rules. Relax guys

This is how it starts. It is about 2026 for now. Next weekend the discussion will become about 2025. And a weekend later it will become about a mid-season TD.

[CaribouBread]

Ferrari was fastest in medium and high speed corners last weekend and didn't lose too much to RB on straight in Q - and actually were faster on straights in the race. The car should be good in Jeddah if they don't mess up the setup.

I think the setup development for Ferrari now would be to look at potentially how much tyre preservation they can trade for outright pace.

[Sevach]

Ferrari was fastest in medium and high speed corners last weekend and didn't lose too much to RB on straight in Q - and actually were faster on straights in the race. The car should be good in Jeddah if they don't mess up the setup.

I think the setup development for Ferrari now would be to look at potentially how much tyre preservation they can trade for outright pace.

I agree, how much can dial out in tire preservation and add in outright pace.

[Schippke]

Source: gpblog.com

During the Bahrain Grand Prix, both Ferrari drivers encountered a number of problems, according to Carlos Sainz, who stated that he experienced similar issues to his teammate Charles Leclerc. Despite these challenges, Sainz was able to secure a podium finish.

“Yes, (during) the first stint and the beginning of the second stint. Whenever we were in traffic, we were having a lot of brake vibrations and the pedal at one point started to go long.”

“So it was always a balancing act between do I go for it and try to get rid of the dirty air and overtake people? Or do I start saving my brakes because they're going to fail or something's going to happen? I started saving by moving a bit on the straight to cool the side that it was getting hotter and the vibration started to get better.”

And then I could start to make moves and move forward. But as I said, the start wasn't great. The brakes were still a bit of a limitation for a bit. Then once everything settled, I could do my pace, do my overtakes and go for the podium.”

“I don't know the level of severity he (Charles Leclerc) had but for me it was one point pretty bad too. It's something that you cannot discover in testing because in testing you never put yourself in 10 laps consecutive behind four cars getting all the hot air from the four cars in front and the brakes never cool down. I tried not to panic.”

“I tried to put the side that was more heated and I took a different line on the straights to cool them down. At one point the pedals started to go quite long and also a lot of brake vibrations which is changes your feeling on the braking quite a lot but yeah I kept it cool managed them and as soon as I got a bit of clean air it cleared and it became a lot better but it's something that we definitely maybe need to take a bit more margin going into an extra race.”

So this brings up 2 points; Did Sainz manage a similar (or the same?) issue better than Leclerc did? And is this something we’ll have to worry about this weekend in Saudi? Later could be possible…

[Xyz22]

Source: gpblog.com

During the Bahrain Grand Prix, both Ferrari drivers encountered a number of problems, according to Carlos Sainz, who stated that he experienced similar issues to his teammate Charles Leclerc. Despite these challenges, Sainz was able to secure a podium finish.

“Yes, (during) the first stint and the beginning of the second stint. Whenever we were in traffic, we were having a lot of brake vibrations and the pedal at one point started to go long.”

“So it was always a balancing act between do I go for it and try to get rid of the dirty air and overtake people? Or do I start saving my brakes because they're going to fail or something's going to happen? I started saving by moving a bit on the straight to cool the side that it was getting hotter and the vibration started to get better.”

And then I could start to make moves and move forward. But as I said, the start wasn't great. The brakes were still a bit of a limitation for a bit. Then once everything settled, I could do my pace, do my overtakes and go for the podium.”

“I don't know the level of severity he (Charles Leclerc) had but for me it was one point pretty bad too. It's something that you cannot discover in testing because in testing you never put yourself in 10 laps consecutive behind four cars getting all the hot air from the four cars in front and the brakes never cool down. I tried not to panic.”

“I tried to put the side that was more heated and I took a different line on the straights to cool them down. At one point the pedals started to go quite long and also a lot of brake vibrations which is changes your feeling on the braking quite a lot but yeah I kept it cool managed them and as soon as I got a bit of clean air it cleared and it became a lot better but it's something that we definitely maybe need to take a bit more margin going into an extra race.”

So this brings up 2 points; Did Sainz manage a similar (or the same?) issue better than Leclerc did? And is this something we’ll have to worry about this weekend in Saudi? Later could be possible…

Leclerc's issue was completely different.

[Vanja #66]

Source: gpblog.com

So this brings up 2 points; Did Sainz manage a similar (or the same?) issue better than Leclerc did? And is this something we’ll have to worry about this weekend in Saudi? Later could be possible…

This comes from the same driver who refused to change his tyres in Japan last year when the team called him in, lost almost 10s and a track position because of that and then complained the team sacrificed him to protect Leclerc's P4...