2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Cs98 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:06
venkyhere wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 06:18
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... /10583916/

I don't know what to make of this. One aspect I liked about VER was his complete lack of diplomacy, despite the media coaches provided by the team. Raw speaker.

But here, I can see some careful politician-like tightrope walking.
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Even if Max is determined to leave I hardly imagine he wants to do so mid season, all the other seats are under contract. So being diplomatic outwardly and focusing on the racing is a smart move. If he announces a move he should do so after the season.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2 ... -red-bull/

Max on his Red Bull future to the press yesterday.

Are you sure you will stay at Red Bull until 2028?

Well that was always the intention of signing, that’s why we signed for so long to be here. And of course it’s about the performance of the car. And of course from 2026 onwards that’s a bit of a question mark with new regulations. But I knew that when I signed the contract. But I also know what they have done for me in my career.

So yeah, the intention is of course absolutely to stay with this team because I really enjoy it, and I’m also really happy within the team.
And yeah, as long as we perform there is no reason also to leave.

Would you ever envisage being at Mercedes?

I am very relaxed and very happy at the team and the performance is there so there is no reason to leave.
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Wouter wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:52
Cs98 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:06
venkyhere wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 06:18
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/vers ... /10583916/

I don't know what to make of this. One aspect I liked about VER was his complete lack of diplomacy, despite the media coaches provided by the team. Raw speaker.

But here, I can see some careful politician-like tightrope walking.
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Even if Max is determined to leave I hardly imagine he wants to do so mid season, all the other seats are under contract. So being diplomatic outwardly and focusing on the racing is a smart move. If he announces a move he should do so after the season.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2 ... -red-bull/

Max on his Red Bull future to the press yesterday.

Are you sure you will stay at Red Bull until 2028?

Well that was always the intention of signing, that’s why we signed for so long to be here. And of course it’s about the performance of the car. And of course from 2026 onwards that’s a bit of a question mark with new regulations. But I knew that when I signed the contract. But I also know what they have done for me in my career.

So yeah, the intention is of course absolutely to stay with this team because I really enjoy it, and I’m also really happy within the team.
And yeah, as long as we perform there is no reason also to leave.

Would you ever envisage being at Mercedes?

I am very relaxed and very happy at the team and the performance is there so there is no reason to leave.
He's being diplomatic. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave after this season? Either way I would expect him to say he's committed to the team right at this moment.

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Cs98 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 10:02
Wouter wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:52
Cs98 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:06

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Even if Max is determined to leave I hardly imagine he wants to do so mid season, all the other seats are under contract. So being diplomatic outwardly and focusing on the racing is a smart move. If he announces a move he should do so after the season.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2 ... -red-bull/

Max on his Red Bull future to the press yesterday.

Are you sure you will stay at Red Bull until 2028?

Well that was always the intention of signing, that’s why we signed for so long to be here. And of course it’s about the performance of the car. And of course from 2026 onwards that’s a bit of a question mark with new regulations. But I knew that when I signed the contract. But I also know what they have done for me in my career.

So yeah, the intention is of course absolutely to stay with this team because I really enjoy it, and I’m also really happy within the team.
And yeah, as long as we perform there is no reason also to leave.

Would you ever envisage being at Mercedes?

I am very relaxed and very happy at the team and the performance is there so there is no reason to leave.
He's being diplomatic. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave after this season? Either way I would expect him to say he's committed to the team right at this moment.
A positive sign but yes while there is so much going on take it with a grain of salt. The last thing he wants is even more fuel on that fire while’s hes fighting for the WDC.

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Wouter wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 09:43
izzy wrote:
06 Mar 2024, 22:23
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Oooh, well Jos is suddenly doing rallies! Is Helmut there this weekend?
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It seems you don't know that Jos started rally driving in November 2021 and he does a great job.
He could never attend a GP when he had to race himself.
Yes he does rallying, but if you look on the facebook page of this weekend's rally, there's an entry list as at 26th Feb and Jos is not on it. This is what's sudden, his entry. It's perfect PR of course. Same as Max's press interviews. But there it is, no Jos in the garage, and apparently he has a number of rallies he has to do now.

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Cs98 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 10:02
He's being diplomatic. Does he want to stay? Does he want to leave after this season? Either way I would expect him to say he's committed to the team right at this moment.
Max is Max. 2 legs firmly on the ground. Simply sober! It is as it is.
And one thing he has shown over the years. He´s committed and has shown his commitment.
He´s a true friend and family man first. Those folks close around him can vouch for this.

Example. He stuck to the Jumbo logo on his helmet for years as Jumbo supported him through the years.
Even when it was not even needed.
And he will stick to Red Bull as a family as they supported him through the years.

P.S. since Jos entrusted Max to Christian and Helmut (after BCN 2016) he has been coming less and less to the races.
Jos has his own racing and family that takes his time.

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To me max is playing the political game cleverly with the veil of his usual apolitical stance. He says things that on the surface are positive PR for red bull but they leave scope for him to renege on as well

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Espresso wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 23:32
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And he will stick to Red Bull as a family as they supported him through the years.
Which side of the family?
He was supported by Marko and Mateschitz. It is the Austrian part of the family. In other words, exactly the part that Horner and the Thai part are apparently trying to oust. If there is a break, it is obvious to whom he will be loyal.
He has made it very clear in recent weeks that he is not on Horner's side of the family.
So let's hope there is no divorce.

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chrstphrln wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 07:51
Espresso wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 23:32
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And he will stick to Red Bull as a family as they supported him through the years.
Which side of the family?
He was supported by Marko and Mateschitz. It is the Austrian part of the family. In other words, exactly the part that Horner and the Thai part are apparently trying to oust. If there is a break, it is obvious to whom he will be loyal.
He has made it very clear in recent weeks that he is not on Horner's side of the family.
So let's hope there is no divorce.
If he goes, it's his loss. I hope for the sake of fun, Jos drags him out. Would like to see a few more WDCs on the grid. It's boring to see one driver simply vanishing off after 200 meters. Credit to Red Bull team that has been building such machines. The current group of Austrians didn't build this organization, it's Horner with the backing of Matechitz that has built it. If the Austrian group leave, not even the paint on the walls of Milton Keynes factory would affect.

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mendis wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 08:22
chrstphrln wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 07:51
Espresso wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 23:32
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And he will stick to Red Bull as a family as they supported him through the years.
Which side of the family?
He was supported by Marko and Mateschitz. It is the Austrian part of the family. In other words, exactly the part that Horner and the Thai part are apparently trying to oust. If there is a break, it is obvious to whom he will be loyal.
He has made it very clear in recent weeks that he is not on Horner's side of the family.
So let's hope there is no divorce.
If he goes, it's his loss. I hope for the sake of fun, Jos drags him out. Would like to see a few more WDCs on the grid. It's boring to see one driver simply vanishing off after 200 meters. Credit to Red Bull team that has been building such machines. The current group of Austrians didn't build this organization, it's Horner with the backing of Matechitz that has built it. If the Austrian group leave, not even the paint on the walls of Milton Keynes factory would affect.
I admit, from a sporting point of view, I would be happy for Max to go. Or Newey. Or both...
I would very much welcome more variety.

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Helmut Marko tells ORF (Austrian TV) that he may not be in his position by the Australian GP. He says he may be suspended from his role

Duchessa reminds of the statement made by Max at the end of 2023 that if Marko goes, so will he. There's also been intimations that Max has get-out clauses associated with the departure of other employees such as Marko.


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Marko was interviewed on German Sky a moment ago as well, and from the sound of it, it very much felt like this will be his last race for Red Bull indeed.

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Will miss Marko dearly! We will not hear some plain truth about the performance comparisons between teams anymore, which otherwise we never hear from Red Bull.

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Apart from the politics, the lap was pretty good from Max. I watched his onboard and it was indeed similar to his 2021 lap, this one definitely felt calmer meanwhile the 2021 lap was a raging one but as he said himself, the lap feels like Jeddah 2021 a bit =D>

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[Marko could face suspension amid fresh Red Bull investigation/size]

Red Bull’s motorsport advisor Helmut Marko has admitted that there is a possibility he could be suspended after this weekend’s Formula 1 race in Saudi Arabia.

In a dramatic development to the saga surrounding Red Bull team principal Christian Horner, it has emerged that Marko may face disciplinary action as the result of a fresh investigation that has been launched against him.

Just 24 hours after the female employee at the centre of the allegations made against Horner was suspended as a consequence of the findings of the probe into the matter, Marko is now under the spotlight.

Motorsport.com has learned that Marko is subject to an investigation by Red Bull relating to various media leaks that have taken place since it emerged that Horner was being looked at by Red Bull's energy drinks company.

The investigation remains ongoing, and no conclusion has been reached regarding whether or not Marko breached team protocol at all.

However, if he is found guilty of having released confidential information to the media then he could face disciplinary action.

Marko confessed to Austrian broadcaster ORF in Saudi Arabia that there was a chance he could be absent from the next race in Australia.

Red Bull declined to comment on the matter when approached by Motorsport.com.

More to follow...
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/mark ... /10584969/
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