2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Brave of them to intend to switch to smaller RW on Friday. I hope it does not backfire.

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CouncilorIrissa wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 23:30
Brave of them to intend to switch to smaller RW on Friday. I hope it does not backfire.
I think we can have some confidence that the technical and engineering side of the team knows what they're doing, whatever they go with.

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Looking through the laps on F1 tempo. Really good cornering performance in comparison to the RB20. Equal if not slightly faster in todays trim. RB20 has the edge on top speed, although only marginal on the flying lap. Makes me wonder if Ferrari will gamble on keeping the bigger wing on, and using DRS in the race to try and keep close to max. Lower DF wing could compromise the great work the car is doing through the corners.

Interestingly, Sainz top speed was closer to Max, and a good 3kmh faster down the straights than Lec, so could be a setup choice, or an engine mode or fuel load dictating some of it.

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Seanspeed wrote:
CouncilorIrissa wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 23:30
Brave of them to intend to switch to smaller RW on Friday. I hope it does not backfire.
I think we can have some confidence that the technical and engineering side of the team knows what they're doing, whatever they go with.
Hopefully it means high confidence in their simulation tools.

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 21:51
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“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q
They did it in Vegas iirc

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Ced wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 01:29
scuderiabrandon wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 21:51
Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q
They did it in Vegas iirc
Very different circumstances in my opinion

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 22:44

I'm trying to be conservative in my predictions and say were at the most 2/3 tenths off Verstappen.
Very optimistic…

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scuderiabrandon wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 01:35
Ced wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 01:29
scuderiabrandon wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 21:51
Fred to skysportsF1

“We wanted to do some adaptation work for the drivers, there will be an evolution tomorrow and I think we will all converge with a similar level of load on the car.”

They either expect others to add load or they will go to a lower wing in FP3, which would be really strange with and hour of runnig before Q
They did it in Vegas iirc
Very different circumstances in my opinion
A team principal on the backfoot trying to make things interesting keeping Ferrari fans interested. Better to use the season for development and proper testing with full effort on 2025 because 2-3-5 tenth off Ves on paper is impossible to catch. SF24 still has a long way to go before it becomes a true challenger.
Saturday race will be no different from last week Bahrain race.

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Xyz22 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 11:20
Schippke wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 11:02
Source: gpblog.com
During the Bahrain Grand Prix, both Ferrari drivers encountered a number of problems, according to Carlos Sainz, who stated that he experienced similar issues to his teammate Charles Leclerc. Despite these challenges, Sainz was able to secure a podium finish.

“Yes, (during) the first stint and the beginning of the second stint. Whenever we were in traffic, we were having a lot of brake vibrations and the pedal at one point started to go long.”

“So it was always a balancing act between do I go for it and try to get rid of the dirty air and overtake people? Or do I start saving my brakes because they're going to fail or something's going to happen? I started saving by moving a bit on the straight to cool the side that it was getting hotter and the vibration started to get better.”

And then I could start to make moves and move forward. But as I said, the start wasn't great. The brakes were still a bit of a limitation for a bit. Then once everything settled, I could do my pace, do my overtakes and go for the podium.”

“I don't know the level of severity he (Charles Leclerc) had but for me it was one point pretty bad too. It's something that you cannot discover in testing because in testing you never put yourself in 10 laps consecutive behind four cars getting all the hot air from the four cars in front and the brakes never cool down. I tried not to panic.”

“I tried to put the side that was more heated and I took a different line on the straights to cool them down. At one point the pedals started to go quite long and also a lot of brake vibrations which is changes your feeling on the braking quite a lot but yeah I kept it cool managed them and as soon as I got a bit of clean air it cleared and it became a lot better but it's something that we definitely maybe need to take a bit more margin going into an extra race.”
So this brings up 2 points; Did Sainz manage a similar (or the same?) issue better than Leclerc did? And is this something we’ll have to worry about this weekend in Saudi? Later could be possible…
Leclerc's issue was completely different.
Leclerc issue was a 100 degrees unbalance between brakes. Sainz explained exactly same problem (with I bolded), and how he managed the problem

How is this completely different when they´re describing exactly same problem, a brake temperature unbalance?

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Vanja #66 wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 11:32
Schippke wrote:
07 Mar 2024, 11:02
Source: gpblog.com

So this brings up 2 points; Did Sainz manage a similar (or the same?) issue better than Leclerc did? And is this something we’ll have to worry about this weekend in Saudi? Later could be possible…
This comes from the same driver who refused to change his tyres in Japan last year when the team called him in, lost almost 10s and a track position because of that and then complained the team sacrificed him to protect Leclerc's P4...
This is a perfect example of shooting the messenger with a non related argument wich only distract from the problem, wich is Ferrari had a brake balance problem wich Sainz managed better than Leclerc

I´m not expecting Ferrari recognizing the problem, but hopefully they solve it for this GP

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Vinlarr89 wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 00:49
Looking through the laps on F1 tempo. Really good cornering performance in comparison to the RB20. Equal if not slightly faster in todays trim. RB20 has the edge on top speed, although only marginal on the flying lap. Makes me wonder if Ferrari will gamble on keeping the bigger wing on, and using DRS in the race to try and keep close to max. Lower DF wing could compromise the great work the car is doing through the corners.

Interestingly, Sainz top speed was closer to Max, and a good 3kmh faster down the straights than Lec, so could be a setup choice, or an engine mode or fuel load dictating some of it.
In Bahrain Ferrari was consistently faster in medium-high-speed corners, where RB had arguably bigger RW. Now that RB has smaller wing the difference is the same, if not smaller. Makes me wonder if they actually raised the car a bit to offset the extra rear DF they had with bigger wing.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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Sainz will not take part in the Grand Prix, any idea who'll replace him?

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A Saudi journalist who is followed by Duchessa and Fabrega is reporting that Carlos is in hospital due to undergo an appendix operation. I am assuming this means Bearman could deputise (if this news is true)?

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organic wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 13:09
A Saudi Arabian journalist who is followed by Duchessa and Fabrega is reporting that Carlos is in hospital due to undergo an appendix operation. I am assuming this means Bearman could deputise (if this news is true)?

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It would be nice to see some fresh blood on track again, see what he's made of.

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That's a bummer, any surgery is always problematic. :( Wish him a quick recovery!

Bearman is on track obviously, but they may decide to leave him to his F2 duties and put Schwartzman or Giovinazzi in. Those are the 3 reserve drivers
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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