2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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I'm gonna put aside a bunch of stuff on this race and quali.

I'm pretty impressed with the work Ferrari engineers have done on the car to improve it so much compared to last year. They didn't follow popular trends like pull/push-rod suspensions or massive anti-dive fronts, they fixed their floor problems, car doesn't bounce, a brand new driver with 1 hour experience placed the car 11th just basically 0.05 shy of Q3.

That's a good car for being 2 race old being so close to the RB20. I'm impressed.

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That's from free practice

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It was reported that the car is still not completely there in quali trim compared to the RB. We had another proof today.
Also losing Sainz for the WE shouldn't be underestimated. I'm sure he would have provided useful insights for the team.

By the way, if Newey and/or Wachè will leave RB but with the aim of finding another F1 Team Ferrari must hire them at all cost.

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from just casual observation, data comparison i see between lec and ver. charles like to break late while max priorities exit.. am I correct in my assumption?

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Fakepivot wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 21:44
from just casual observation, data comparison i see between lec and ver. charles like to break late while max priorities exit.. am I correct in my assumption?
It's a pointless comparison in my opinion because the cars have different aero characteristics.

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Fakepivot wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 21:44
from just casual observation, data comparison i see between lec and ver. charles like to break late while max priorities exit.. am I correct in my assumption?
Max is not a late braker, he's always been a mid corner, corner exit kind of guy.

I addition to that the Ferrari has more wing, with that much wing is the better car under heavy braking, corner entry.
The Red Bull still manages to edge it through high the high speed 7-8-9-10.
And has better straightline speed (not by a large margin).

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In total, Leclerc lost 0.5-0.55s on straights, 0.35s of which in the back section alone. Wing was too big for Q, he seemed a bit disappointed by that choice in the interview. However, last year when they ran less wing than RB and managed to snatch a pole, they'd still lose in the race and deg was terrible.

Yes, the 24 car is very different, but I don't think it will hurt them to try a different approach. With a different approach to strategy and extending the first stint they might just give themselves some options later in the race, especially if SC bunches up the grid. With the deg of AMR and poor cornering of low-drag Merc, I don't think they will be able to pose a sustained threat the whole race, so it doesn't look like they are taking a risk.

Compared to 2023, minimal losses on straights somehow and major improvements in all corners. Leclerc had a very good 1st stint on Softs last year with bigger wing, they might want to try that again tomorrow. Just like last week, execution will be crucial.

Ollie was amazing today, great job and probably could have had a better shot at Q3 without the red flag. This is a bit of a pressure-off situation, starting outside Top 10, so he'd do well to focus on finishing the race first and foremost. Whatever comes after this weekend for him, it will be a huge experience and a huge confidence boost for him. Great find from Ferrari Academy, no doubt! I thought they should have left him take an F3 title last year, but obviously jumping to F2 was not a bad move for him.
And they call it a stall. A STALL!

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I think the differences are where the red bull is just that but more refined because of the time spent perfecting the concept. This is basically year zero for Ferrari so kudos to them for being as close as they are.
From interviews it sounds like they have a clear development path and strategy.

Let’s hope the weekend results in another podium. Fingers crossed for a P2

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Vanja #66 wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 22:23
https://i.ibb.co/pQ9WC5Q/sar-24-q.jpg

In total, Leclerc lost 0.5-0.55s on straights, 0.35s of which in the back section alone. Wing was too big for Q, he seemed a bit disappointed by that choice in the interview. However, last year when they ran less wing than RB and managed to snatch a pole, they'd still lose in the race and deg was terrible.

Yes, the 24 car is very different, but I don't think it will hurt them to try a different approach. With a different approach to strategy and extending the first stint they might just give themselves some options later in the race, especially if SC bunches up the grid. With the deg of AMR and poor cornering of low-drag Merc, I don't think they will be able to pose a sustained threat the whole race, so it doesn't look like they are taking a risk.

Compared to 2023, minimal losses on straights somehow and major improvements in all corners. Leclerc had a very good 1st stint on Softs last year with bigger wing, they might want to try that again tomorrow. Just like last week, execution will be crucial.

Ollie was amazing today, great job and probably could have had a better shot at Q3 without the red flag. This is a bit of a pressure-off situation, starting outside Top 10, so he'd do well to focus on finishing the race first and foremost. Whatever comes after this weekend for him, it will be a huge experience and a huge confidence boost for him. Great find from Ferrari Academy, no doubt! I thought they should have left him take an F3 title last year, but obviously jumping to F2 was not a bad move for him.
I totally agree with you and at last i welcome them to try new scenario for the race. The only thing Leclerc needs tomorow is to keep up in the 1st laps with MV. After some laps we will see this car if it has better degradation which i think is the case this year from what we saw so far.

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Someone going to Maranello?


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KimiRai wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 22:35
Someone going to Maranello?

The doors are open for Newey only :D

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bluechris wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 22:39
KimiRai wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 22:35
Someone going to Maranello?

The doors are open for Newey only :D
Waché would be more than welcome too.

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Vanja #66 wrote:
08 Mar 2024, 22:23
https://i.ibb.co/pQ9WC5Q/sar-24-q.jpg

In total, Leclerc lost 0.5-0.55s on straights, 0.35s of which in the back section alone. Wing was too big for Q, he seemed a bit disappointed by that choice in the interview. However, last year when they ran less wing than RB and managed to snatch a pole, they'd still lose in the race and deg was terrible.

Yes, the 24 car is very different, but I don't think it will hurt them to try a different approach. With a different approach to strategy and extending the first stint they might just give themselves some options later in the race, especially if SC bunches up the grid. With the deg of AMR and poor cornering of low-drag Merc, I don't think they will be able to pose a sustained threat the whole race, so it doesn't look like they are taking a risk.

Compared to 2023, minimal losses on straights somehow and major improvements in all corners. Leclerc had a very good 1st stint on Softs last year with bigger wing, they might want to try that again tomorrow. Just like last week, execution will be crucial.

Ollie was amazing today, great job and probably could have had a better shot at Q3 without the red flag. This is a bit of a pressure-off situation, starting outside Top 10, so he'd do well to focus on finishing the race first and foremost. Whatever comes after this weekend for him, it will be a huge experience and a huge confidence boost for him. Great find from Ferrari Academy, no doubt! I thought they should have left him take an F3 title last year, but obviously jumping to F2 was not a bad move for him.
It would be curious to see where the car would've ended up with the low downforce rear wing, enough to close this gap? And how it would go through the infield?

Last year Leclerc coming from way behind looked way faster than the cars ahead of him, i wonder if the team will go for softs again.
And hopefully no problem working the hards this time.

Also a 2 stopper would it work? Soft-medium-soft.

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Can’t see a 2 stopper working with such low deg expected from RBR.

There’s a school of thought I guess that you could take a massive gamble and start on the hards to try and hold out for a late safety car then switch to softs to try and kill it at the end, but it’s high risk as you’d likely loose a couple of places off the line and be uncompetitive in the early stages.