Probably not.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024, 14:15F1 has lower peak cylinder pressures ? (than previous turbo F1)
Probably not.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024, 14:15F1 has lower peak cylinder pressures ? (than previous turbo F1)
The maximum allowed pressure of the cooling system is 3.75 bar, which, with water, equates to 140°C (285°F) boiling point. The pressure limit was put in to prevent teams from running even higher temperatures/pressures. A large delta T aids heat rejection and would allow smaller radiators; I don't believe F1 engines run 'quite low coolant temperatures'.Tommy Cookers wrote: ↑15 Jan 2024, 14:15F1 fixes engine dimensions that help in the use of aluminium alloys (many previous F1 turbos eg Honda were iron-block)saviour stivala wrote: ↑14 Jan 2024, 22:54...As long as formula 1 engine designers can achieve their projected aims/targets with the lighter in weight of two metals they will certainly specify the lighter of the two. The formula 1 90 degree vee all aluminum engines have extreme structural stiffness.
F1 has lower peak cylinder pressures ? (than previous turbo F1)
F1 has (iirc) quite low coolant temperatures
All that to argue terminology?saviour stivala wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024, 21:43Yes. agree and thank you. Best fit terminology crankcase lower half/lower crankcase similar to motorcycle terminology. Because after all it is all down to prevalence/terminology of the subject/make at hand being talked about. The poster kicking off all this was originally talking matters belonging to the (TJ 3.0 LITRE V10) by using terminology/prevalence of some other make/different type of engine. One can say that there is not much wrong in it at all, but in a technical discussion attributing the wrong/non normal name to a part can lead others on the wrong understanding of the function of part in question.Martin Keene wrote: ↑09 Jan 2024, 14:18Ah, I see, I was talking specifically about bedplates, not in relation to F1 engines. I am not sure what I'd call the bottom half of an F1 block, like you say it is not a bedplate because it is open, equally I am not lower sump is right either because that doesn't imply structural support of the crank. Probably crankcase lower half, similar to motorcycle terminology is probably best fit.saviour stivala wrote: ↑08 Jan 2024, 15:17
No we are not talking about different things, the problem is the thing called 'BED-PLATE', the one you are showing (KOHLER PHOTO), that yes, it contains the crankshaft lower bearing halves, YES you are right that it is referred to as a 'BED-PLATE', but it is different from the lower part of the formula 1 engine called the 'LOWER SUMP', The difference is the formula 1 lower sump not only also contains the lower half crank main bearing but it also is closed bottom, meaning it catches/contains the oil inside it, that is before the oil is scavenged. The one you show is called a 'BED-PLAT' because the lower half main bearings are cast in, it is not called a lower sump because it has an open bottom which is closed by a normal sump. The other type of 'BED-PLATE' I was originally talking about is also closed bottom and apart from lower main bearing halves being cast or built-in, the crankshaft is held into it by removable main bearing caps bolted down onto it and it completely supports the engine.