2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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Seanspeed wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 21:32
Cs98 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 15:55
Does it? Albon has had two massive crashes here in two years, completely his own fault. That obviously poses a risk to his confidence on a track he clearly struggles to drive well on. There's nothing emotional about recognizing his poor record around this track, in fact it would be emotional and irrational not to recognize it. It would also be irrational not to take into account how much pressure he is now under because of all this. If he crashes again it will look terrible for him and he will make the team look like fools for placing him in Sargeant's car. With all that weighing on him I'm expecting a conservative approach for the remainder of the weekend and no results to speak of.
So is he gonna be conservative or is he gonna crash? You cant seem to make up your mind. lol

Either way, you're making big leaps thinking you know anything about what is going to go in the guy's head. People at this level dont tend to shy away from pressure. And two crashes at this track in two years may feel like some convincing pattern that shows he's just terrible here, more likely it's just a coincidence.

And no, even if he doesn't do well, it wont look like a terrible move. I honestly cant grasp why some of you keep saying this, given that Sargeant would almost certainly have never done anything notable, as he's simply not very good and on the whole, more crash-prone than Albon is when it comes down to it. Would it have looked any more some terrible choice if they didn't do this and Sargeant was completely uncompetitive as normal or has some incident as he's more prone to doing?

Albon has the better chance of doing something. That's it. That's all that needs to be said.
He's going to be conservative, crashing would be far more embarrassing for him and the team. You can always blame a poor performance on the car, especially if you are the only one driving it :lol:

Two massive crashes in two years (same corner), little practice, and the added pressure of the teammate and chassi situation. The big leap would be to suggest that this is not going to play on his mind and how he approaches the weekend. He's human and he has every incentive this weekend to not make the same mistakes again. If you've been bitten twice in the same place you will be cautious next time you go there, it's the same for Albon. I'm expecting a conservative performance, no real results, and deserved criticism afterwards.

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Cs98 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 21:06
Zynerji wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 21:03
Cs98 wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 20:55



He's such an ace on this track that if he keeps it up he'll soon have the "Wall of Albon" at turn 6.
Albon >> Sargeant

I don't make these decisions, but Williams have been clear at this point who their better driver is. Any disagreement and speculation at this point is simply sour grapes.
Sure, overall he is much better, but on this track and under these circumstances he is far from an ace. He is a risk.
I would say any time that someone is driving a car at 200MPH, its a risk.

Logan just isn't that good.

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2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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If Albon crashes hard, Williams may not go to Suzuka I think.

Lack of chassis for replacement is the real problem here not this call.

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dialtone wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 22:00
If Albon crashes hard, Williams may not go to Suzuka I think.

Lack of chassis for replacement is the real problem here not this call.
Meanwhile F1s "Andretti wouldn't have enough to compete" looks worst and worst.

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dialtone wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 22:00
If Albon crashes hard, Williams may not go to Suzuka I think.

Lack of chassis for replacement is the real problem here not this call.
according to AmuS, the 3rd one is almost ready and will be available for Suzuka. Williams also aims to repair Albon's chassis until then.

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Just catching up on practice sessions, and anyone notice anything odd with the camera shots when they switch? Seem momentarily slow then back to normal speed.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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Was there over the last decade or so a reason given for bringing the barriers in closer to the track? I remember the run down to T3 having around a cars width of a grass on either side, inside of T4 being wide open, exit of T5 having somewhat of a run off area... but most noticeable for me it is on the straight after the fast left-right chicane. I have watched F3 practice last night and was disoriented at first about which part of track that was and thought that layout changed without me being aware of it. Also exit of a final corner used to have quite a bit of grass between the kerb and the wall.

When I started watching F1 in late 90s and early 2000s I was not even aware that Albert Park was a street circuit as it looked so spacious and definition of street circuit was Monaco. Now it looks a lot more claustrophobic than it once was.

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dialtone wrote:
22 Mar 2024, 22:00
If Albon crashes hard, Williams may not go to Suzuka I think.

Lack of chassis for replacement is the real problem here not this call.
If Williams can't get a chassis completed and shipped to Japan in two weeks they have real problems. Yeah, I know, it takes longer than that, but they should have been working on a third one as soon as they finished the first two. Andretti has to be ready for podia to get into F1? Hmmm.

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Re: 2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

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Shaping up to be quite the qualifying folks!

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Vanja #66 wrote: As for corners, just look at relative difference in speed, 10 is 10% of 100 and 5% of 200 kmh.
Of course.
What I meant was that the same "gap" in the speed trace hits different based on which y axis region the gap sits in. Something that's not easily obvious when we follow the speed traces between two cars.

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Looked like everyone was struggling a lot to get (and keep) the softs in the working window in FP3. Should be an interesting Qualifying.

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vanburin wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 04:49
Shaping up to be quite the qualifying folks!
Let's hope so, had to wake up extremely early for this one :shock:!

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Here are the best times from FP3, and at which lap they were set. Not looking great for Red Bull

01:16,714 LEC SOFT 6
01:16,734 VER SOFT 8
01:16,791 SAI MEDIUM 6
01:16,806 HAM SOFT 4
01:16,824 LEC SOFT 3
01:16,848 SAI SOFT 2
01:16,869 SAI SOFT 5
01:16,886 RUS SOFT 9
01:16,989 HAM SOFT 7
01:16,997 ALO SOFT 7
01:17,012 RUS SOFT 6
01:17,014 PER SOFT 5
01:17,028 VER SOFT 5
01:17,087 LEC MEDIUM 10
01:17,087 PIA SOFT 4
01:17,100 VER MEDIUM 7
01:17,150 PER MEDIUM 7
01:17,277 VER SOFT 2
01:17,289 PER SOFT 2
01:17,341 STR SOFT 7

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Wtf is going on with the tv directing?

Yep let’s follow the lowest car on the grid, ON A SLOW LAP, as they’re literally being shown blue flags and being overtaken by a Ferrari on a hot lap?

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JPBD1990 wrote:
23 Mar 2024, 07:13
Wtf is going on with the tv directing?

Yep let’s follow the lowest car on the grid, ON A SLOW LAP, as they’re literally being shown blue flags and being overtaken by a Ferrari on a hot lap?
FOM director hates Ferrari more than the Stewards. I don't even remember the last fast lap they've fully shown from a Ferrari.