2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Vinlarr89]

It’s a good point, as normally Ferrari seem to achieve better results on sprint weekends where setup time is at a premium.

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I wonder what is the reason behind the fact that RB improves much more than Ferrari through the weekend usually.

- Ferrari has better simulation tools and therefore is able to arrive with a better base setup?
- RB hide more during FPs?
- Ferrari is not as good as RB in improving the car on track during the weekend?

Maybe a combination of all the above. Don’t really know.

They've definitely hid something, today the RB20 was faster in a straight line than the SF24, yesterday they were the same.

RB changed downforce level considerably from Friday to Saturday which easily accounts for the change.

Friday RB used Bahrain front/rear wing with Saudi beamwing

Saturday RB used Saudi front/rear wings with Bahrain beamwing.

Ferrari arrived at the weekend with a better setup so naturally you improve from this better baseline less

[Rikhart]

I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.

[Vinlarr89]

Wonder if RB are going to be able to consistently operate with less wing than others giving them the advantage this season.

[Xyz22]

I was checking the comparison between Leclerc Q3 lap time and his best lap in Fp2 yesterday. In some parts of the track, he almost didn't improve (i think in turn 6 he even lost time). Crazy.

[wickedz50]

Hoping for a clean race tomorrow, a clean start and Lec must not try any unreasonable challenge on Carlos at the start, even if Lando gets ahead at start there should no need to panic, there is no point racing Max tomorrow and ending on each others car and ruining the team’s effort.
P2 and P3 is possible at worst P3 and P4 will do from here on. I just hope that both drivers stay calm and the strategy team to do their job solidly with full support from the pit crew.
If this base performance is solidified for few races flawlessly then the next step of catching RBR is going to be little easy. Control the controllables is the best that can be done at this moment. Moral will be boosted, confidence will build and mentally they will be getting stronger for the final frontier.

[GrizzleBoy]

Wonder if RB are going to be able to consistently operate with less wing than others giving them the advantage this season.

As with pretty much every season Ham has had in his career, wait till we see what the standings and performances look like at the end of the year.

At the beginning of 2022 he seemed like he lost all performance, but his finish to that season was a different story entirely.

By mid season his main competition has usually evaporated.

I highly doubt Merc are letting him sit in technical meetings with a notebook full of W15 secrets he can put in a red suitcase and jet off to Maranello with for 2025 and beyond.

[wickedz50]

I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.

I would hope they have thought and planned for the second option if Lewis becomes a liability. They are making this change when both drivers are getting settled down and maturing with the way the Ferrari organisation works, sadly for the regulations since 2014 the championship has failed to produce competitive racing for producing multiple winners.
If Ferrari team does not produce a RBR challenger and a solid working race strategist and pit crew team then what can Lewis or even Max can do to bring hope the win.
The car has to be there 80-90 percent near the challenger and then the rest 10 and above can be driver magic. Dont forget Lewis is not in his 20s. I doubt that Lewis can deliver the 10 consistently. So this car has to go beyond 100% of the RBR challenger to maybe give hope of converting that into a winner by Lewis or Lec or Carlos.
To me this is a PR move to attract valuable talents from other teams and brand value and nothing else.

[Cs98]

Hoping for a clean race tomorrow, a clean start and Lec must not try any unreasonable challenge on Carlos at the start, even if Lando gets ahead at start there should no need to panic, there is no point racing Max tomorrow and ending on each others car and ruining the team’s effort.
P2 and P3 is possible at worst P3 and P4 will do from here on. I just hope that both drivers stay calm and the strategy team to do their job solidly with full support from the pit crew.
If this base performance is solidified for few races flawlessly then the next step of catching RBR is going to be little easy. Control the controllables is the best that can be done at this moment. Moral will be boosted, confidence will build and mentally they will be getting stronger for the final frontier.

There is every reason to race Max tomorrow based on the pace they've shown. Ferrari don't need to "secure" P2 in the WCC, it's irrelevant. Instead they need to do anything and everything to win races and start eating away at that air of invincibility that RB and Verstappen have. So if they are not going to use an opportunity like this when their car looks legitimately competitive, might as well go home to Maranello and eat pizza.

[CouncilorIrissa]

So the car is still dodgy in high speed stuff, judging by the telemetry, resulting in driver hesitation and mistakes.
Disappointing.

RB will be out of reach tomorrow, and MCL seemed better in race trim in practice.
5-6 seems like the best outcome for tomorrow.

[Cs98]

I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.

From a performance perspective, maybe. From a marketing perspective, no.

[Sphere3758]

Hoping for a clean race tomorrow, a clean start and Lec must not try any unreasonable challenge on Carlos at the start, even if Lando gets ahead at start there should no need to panic, there is no point racing Max tomorrow and ending on each others car and ruining the team’s effort.
P2 and P3 is possible at worst P3 and P4 will do from here on. I just hope that both drivers stay calm and the strategy team to do their job solidly with full support from the pit crew.
If this base performance is solidified for few races flawlessly then the next step of catching RBR is going to be little easy. Control the controllables is the best that can be done at this moment. Moral will be boosted, confidence will build and mentally they will be getting stronger for the final frontier.

There is every reason to race Max tomorrow based on the pace they've shown. Ferrari don't need to "secure" P2 in the WCC, it's irrelevant. Instead they need to do anything and everything to win races and start eating away at that air of invincibility that RB and Verstappen have. So if they are not going to use an opportunity like this when their car looks legitimately competitive, might as well go home to Maranello and eat pizza.

And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.

[Chuckjr]

I wonder if Ferrari have begun to doubt their signing of Hamilton.

From a performance perspective, maybe. From a marketing perspective, no.

wut. No. It will be a marketing embarrassment, actually. I’ve said this since they signed him: It was a mistake. They will be paying that guy near double what they pay Charles and he’s simply not worth it. There’s never been any magic with Ham. He’s just been a power unit privileged driver most of his career. Take away the 8 year Merc advantage and he’s just another driver.

I also have no idea why most everyone was foaming at the mouth before quali thinking Ferrari was going to suddenly challenge Red Bull? Come on guys. Red Bull never turn on their power unit or show some of their actual cards till Q3. It’s just another technique they use to avoid FIA intervention. This has been obvious for a while now. Ferrari won’t truly challenge Red Bull till maybe 2026, but I’ve zero confidence they will now that they have tied themselves to a guy who really and truly is in decline while punting the guy that may be in a career resurgence. Ain’t no resurgence gonna come from a 40+ year old. Good luck marketing a decline.

[CouncilorIrissa]

Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.

He's as close to being invincible as it gets though. Last time he did a mistake was when he spun in Hungary 2022, that's almost 40 races ago.

It seems his 99% is better than everyone else's 100%.

[Xyz22]

Hoping for a clean race tomorrow, a clean start and Lec must not try any unreasonable challenge on Carlos at the start, even if Lando gets ahead at start there should no need to panic, there is no point racing Max tomorrow and ending on each others car and ruining the team’s effort.
P2 and P3 is possible at worst P3 and P4 will do from here on. I just hope that both drivers stay calm and the strategy team to do their job solidly with full support from the pit crew.
If this base performance is solidified for few races flawlessly then the next step of catching RBR is going to be little easy. Control the controllables is the best that can be done at this moment. Moral will be boosted, confidence will build and mentally they will be getting stronger for the final frontier.

There is every reason to race Max tomorrow based on the pace they've shown. Ferrari don't need to "secure" P2 in the WCC, it's irrelevant. Instead they need to do anything and everything to win races and start eating away at that air of invincibility that RB and Verstappen have. So if they are not going to use an opportunity like this when their car looks legitimately competitive, might as well go home to Maranello and eat pizza.

And this is how it will be. They have to attack Max as much as possible.

I don’t expect the McLaren to have the pace to match over the entire race, so there is no real danger apart from Redbull. They have to go all in.


Max is not invincible. He has had a big car advantage for a very long time which makes people forget before summer 2022. Charles and Carlos need to find a way to work together to take him down.

You either have the pace or you don't.

Right now Ferrari is nowhere near RB in terms of race pace, also considering that Perez finished P2 in the previous races with minimal effort.
Qualifying is a big if. It seems the overall potential is there but both Leclerc and Sainz are struggling to make a perfect lap which probably means the car is quite tricky to drive in quali trim, and therefore not as good as the RB20.