2024 Australian Grand Prix - Melbourne, March 22 - 24

[DChemTech]

It's not the same. Drivers lift and coast all the time. Stabbing on the brakes is way more erratic.

Was the braking a factor? According to the FIA statement it wasn't.

People have died at Eau Rouge, lifting unexpectedly mid corner is hardly safe.

Would Hamilton get a penalty for that move now? I think he would

Did you read the final ruling?
Potentially dangerous defending.

Lift and coasting into what is essentially a straight is different than stabbing the brakes around blind high speed corner with a chicane after it. There is no comparison with Eau Rouge.

Eau rouge is hardly a straight with good visibility, no?
Anyway, this is a bit of a non discussion; "is some incident in a time go by a penalty by todays standards?". Let's not waste too much energy on it. Celebrate what really matters: double points for Haas. Wacht out podiums all over the world, Hulkenberg is on his way!

[performergr]

Does anyone remember hamilton brake in the straight at canada to not give drs to alonso?

[franbatista123]

Looks like we have a championship battle

Tbh if Ferrari is competitive in Japan I'll be pleasantly surprised

Not that unlikely when you see how good they've become on high speed. High chance we see a massive improvement in S1 compared to last year.

[venkyhere]

Looks like we have a championship battle

Tbh if Ferrari is competitive in Japan I'll be pleasantly surprised

Not that unlikely when you see how good they've become on high speed. High chance we see a massive improvement in S1 compared to last year.

Looking at the delta between RedBull and Ferrari in the T7-T9 'curve' in Melbourne, I still expect RedBull to be faster in Suzuka.S1 than Ferrari. Let's see, if it's indeed matched, that much better for the rest of the season, less boring/predictable races.

[Cs98]

Fantastic hard lap in Q1, and a really solid P12 overall. No matter what happens, that hard Q1 lap proves he had no restraint like you were claiming he would.

You should really stop making so many assumptions and misunderstanding how top competitors minds' work. Making a mistake in a place is not gonna stop everybody from still being able to push hard after. I know this perfectly myself doing sim racing. Yea, maybe I'll double check myself on some non-essential laps just to get the feeling back, but typically I dont let something like a mistake create some submissive/scared situation. If you have that mentality, you've already lost and probably wouldn't ever cut it in a professional situation.

Nah, left a lot of time on the table in quali and couldn't even score a single point despite 3 top cars not finishing. That car had a point in it today and he wasn't good enough to pull it out. Haas running away in the WCC.

This is just embarrassing man. You simply cant admit you were wrong. Albon drove a perfectly decent race with the machinery he had. But you're going to say otherwise no matter what, aren't you? smh

Albon drove a subpar race, he was overly conservative and could not capitalise on a huge opportunity to score points with many top cars going out. The real embarrassment this weekend was Williams, first to not have a spare chassi, and then to place crash prone Albon in the car to deliver a subpar performance.

[Wouter]

By the way, can anyone lip read? I wonder what Verstappen reacted with "f*cking stupid".
I suspect some human error for the brake failure, like when they forgot to remove the covers for button in monaco. But they're just saying the brake "was stuck on" the whole time. Which may or may not be true.

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Max thought it was dangerous driving to the box because his car was on fire. That was his "Stupid" about.
He would have stopped the car on the circuit immediately.

[KimiRai]

Does anyone remember hamilton brake in the straight at canada to not give drs to alonso?

Yes Ive thought of it too. It is what it is, a new precedent has been set so past actions don't matter. Now they better enforce it.

[RonMexico]

It's not the same. Drivers lift and coast all the time. Stabbing on the brakes is way more erratic.

Was the braking a factor? According to the FIA statement it wasn't.

People have died at Eau Rouge, lifting unexpectedly mid corner is hardly safe.

Would Hamilton get a penalty for that move now? I think he would

Did you read the final ruling?
Potentially dangerous defending.

Lift and coasting into what is essentially a straight is different than stabbing the brakes around blind high speed corner with a chicane after it. There is no comparison with Eau Rouge.

Alonso took the corner normally and yes I did read the statement. The issue was over him lifting off 100m early before the braking point.

Would Hamilton have received a penalty for his lift through a flat corner based off what happened today?

For the record I don't think he should have and I don't think Alonso should have received his penalty today either. I think Russell was caught off guard but was more inattentive than anything

[stephen]

It doesn't look fair to take away Logan's car and giving it to Alex. How do you guys feel about this situation?

Meh. Employees are always dealing with similar in every other company in the world.

Aces get the places.

Aces? Both Mercedes and 1 Red Bull DNF and Albon still didn’t score points

[Waz]

Alonso has a valid point, that on most other corners, Russell doesn't lose it touching the gravel.

It's honestly a racing incident, and if it was any other team, it probably would be.

[Edax]

By the way, can anyone lip read? I wonder what Verstappen reacted with "f*cking stupid".
I suspect some human error for the brake failure, like when they forgot to remove the covers for button in monaco. But they're just saying the brake "was stuck on" the whole time. Which may or may not be true.

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Max thought it was dangerous driving to the box because his car was on fire. That was his "Stupid" about.
He would have stopped the car on the circuit immediately.

Makes sense. When he enters the pits the right tire hub explodes quite violently. Had it happened a hundred meters further it could have sprayed some hot debris over officials or waiting pit crews.

[Juzh]

Is on board footage of Verstappen's brief race available somewhere?

https://streamable.com/izwkth

[Mogster]

By the way, can anyone lip read? I wonder what Verstappen reacted with "f*cking stupid".
I suspect some human error for the brake failure, like when they forgot to remove the covers for button in monaco. But they're just saying the brake "was stuck on" the whole time. Which may or may not be true.

.
Max thought it was dangerous driving to the box because his car was on fire. That was his "Stupid" about.
He would have stopped the car on the circuit immediately.

Makes sense. When he enters the pits the right tire hub explodes quite violently. Had it happened a hundred meters further it could have sprayed some hot debris over officials or waiting pit crews.

On the Sky broadcast you could hear him saying FIRE FIRE FIRE over the radio. I’m surprised he didn’t just park it in front of the fire marshalls post irrespective of what the pit wall were telling him.

[Mandrake]

It's not the same. Drivers lift and coast all the time. Stabbing on the brakes is way more erratic.

Was the braking a factor? According to the FIA statement it wasn't.

People have died at Eau Rouge, lifting unexpectedly mid corner is hardly safe.

Would Hamilton get a penalty for that move now? I think he would

Did you read the final ruling?
Potentially dangerous defending.

Lift and coasting into what is essentially a straight is different than stabbing the brakes around blind high speed corner with a chicane after it. There is no comparison with Eau Rouge.

Eau Rouge is a nasty place, especially before the renovations there was a nasty bump just in the middle of going up. When going up there at 180kph I had to open the steering slightly. If there was a car in front of me lifting that would have sent me into the wall straight.

I know F1 cars are a completely different breed, but there are reasons for GT3 cars and Formula cars losing it there and crashing hard. That's no place for a slight lift, much much more so than what Fernando did today.

[PlatinumZealot]

Nah, left a lot of time on the table in quali and couldn't even score a single point despite 3 top cars not finishing. That car had a point in it today and he wasn't good enough to pull it out. Haas running away in the WCC.

This is just embarrassing man. You simply cant admit you were wrong. Albon drove a perfectly decent race with the machinery he had. But you're going to say otherwise no matter what, aren't you? smh

Albon drove a subpar race, he was overly conservative and could not capitalise on a huge opportunity to score points with many top cars going out. The real embarrassment this weekend was Williams, first to not have a spare chassi, and then to place crash prone Albon in the car to deliver a subpar performance.

It wasn't Albon's fault it was the weak strategy by the team.