Mercedes W15

[maygun]

Has anyone heard anything about any big upgrade coming soon?

[Cocles]

Has anyone heard anything about any big upgrade coming soon?

Imola was the original plan. It sounds like today's race confirmed a development direction. Does Imola still give them enough time to get something built?

[chrisc90]

Photo I mentioned about to Ringo in the team thread.



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[Farnborough]

As I understand, the suspension has to be essentially and mostly neutral for aero load in rules, also coming into "movable" aero surface conflict as being not their primary function too.

However, most of them in plan view are similarly large in how much area they cover.

Appearing now to be fundamentally neutral to comply, have evolved into significant aero conditioning type surfaces and much like turbulence "calming" vanes that often are present in wind tunnel facilities to straighten the oncoming air in giving consistent quality to that volume ..... these obviously occupying the approach to floor entrance etc.

The lower two plane of the front wing too in a similar vane type conditioning role playing part in taking turbulence away from incoming flow to floor.

Further back in this thread was good image of nose placed vertical and with very clear view of just how much area is on that front lowermost wing flap too.

[Goblin42]

The W15 is a really weird beast, from the comments that toto & team members are saying, the sensor package on the car is measuring alot more downforce but it can't convert that to lap time, any idea what could cause that

full quote from toto
*Mercedes boss : “We are measuring downforce with our sensors and pressure tabs, and it's saying to us that we have 70 points more downforce in a particular corner in Melbourne than we had last year.*

*“But, on the lap time, it is not one kilometre per hour faster. It doesn't make any sense. So, where's the limitation?*

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10596354/

[kalinka]

Must be tyres then...
I have also a weird feeling that they need some kind of AHA! moment with this car, and it's not fundamentally bad. I have no proof...just a gut feeling.

[AR3-GP]

Any thoughts on the impact that an active front wing would have on the current Mercedes front wing design? Would you expect to see the design continue for multiple years?

[maygun]

Has anyone heard anything about any big upgrade coming soon?

Imola was the original plan. It sounds like today's race confirmed a development direction. Does Imola still give them enough time to get something built?

If they decide today yeah this is the design from the wind tunnel we would manufacture, I don't think it would be ready for imola. anyway no one expecting big jump from them i guess

[Rikhart]

The W15 is a really weird beast, from the comments that toto & team members are saying, the sensor package on the car is measuring alot more downforce but it can't convert that to lap time, any idea what could cause that

full quote from toto
*Mercedes boss : “We are measuring downforce with our sensors and pressure tabs, and it's saying to us that we have 70 points more downforce in a particular corner in Melbourne than we had last year.*

*“But, on the lap time, it is not one kilometre per hour faster. It doesn't make any sense. So, where's the limitation?*

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10596354/

This frankly is scary to hear, it tells me they are lost at sea.

[TNTHead]

The W15 is a really weird beast, from the comments that toto & team members are saying, the sensor package on the car is measuring alot more downforce but it can't convert that to lap time, any idea what could cause that

full quote from toto
*Mercedes boss : “We are measuring downforce with our sensors and pressure tabs, and it's saying to us that we have 70 points more downforce in a particular corner in Melbourne than we had last year.*

*“But, on the lap time, it is not one kilometre per hour faster. It doesn't make any sense. So, where's the limitation?*

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10596354/

A bad sensor?

[PlatinumZealot]

A broken clock is correct twice a day.

Thosw sensors are not broken, but the car's downforce is! At any moment in time it might make high downforce but does it laat througput the turn? Is it unstable? Those are the questions that Toto hasn't answered.

[SiLo]

A broken clock is correct twice a day.

Thosw sensors are not broken, but the car's downforce is! At any moment in time it might make high downforce but does it laat througput the turn? Is it unstable? Those are the questions that Toto hasn't answered.

Schrodingers downforce.

[Venturiation]

A broken clock is correct twice a day.

Thosw sensors are not broken, but the car's downforce is! At any moment in time it might make high downforce but does it laat througput the turn? Is it unstable? Those are the questions that Toto hasn't answered.

The sensors monitor the data for the whole lap every millisecond or second not once randomly

[leblanc]

The W15 is a really weird beast, from the comments that toto & team members are saying, the sensor package on the car is measuring alot more downforce but it can't convert that to lap time, any idea what could cause that

full quote from toto
*Mercedes boss : “We are measuring downforce with our sensors and pressure tabs, and it's saying to us that we have 70 points more downforce in a particular corner in Melbourne than we had last year.*

*“But, on the lap time, it is not one kilometre per hour faster. It doesn't make any sense. So, where's the limitation?*

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10596354/

What was the difference in corner entry speed in this particular corner? Also, if it’s not aero… then it’s mechanical?

[Espresso]

The W15 is a really weird beast, from the comments that toto & team members are saying, the sensor package on the car is measuring alot more downforce but it can't convert that to lap time, any idea what could cause that

full quote from toto
*Mercedes boss : “We are measuring downforce with our sensors and pressure tabs, and it's saying to us that we have 70 points more downforce in a particular corner in Melbourne than we had last year.*

*“But, on the lap time, it is not one kilometre per hour faster. It doesn't make any sense. So, where's the limitation?*

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10596354/

More downforce doesn’t always mean more speed. Optimal downforce in a broad spectrum of driving conditions results in lower lap times.
Unless MB change their way of thinking, they keep making the same mistake.