2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[LetHimTrough]

Sainz in ungrateful. He expects his team mate to 'not-race' when he catches up from behind, yet he is all tooth and nails when he is the one being chased down. I was shocked to see no team orders on the radio - it's not even the main race !! Anyway, as I predicted (this thread or another, dont remember) leClerc is able to preserve his tyres better than Sainz in this race, despite both of them being in dirty air for almost the entire race. It was psychologically important for leClerc to finish ahead.

Ungrateful for what? Being sacked? The way I see it he has every right to defend his position, Charles the Clerk putting his car on the outside of the hairpin wasn't really going to work now was it.

Well Leclerc had to get outside the track to avoid damage, when he was at least side by side in the braking zone. So it wasn't probably a move but deserved at least some respect.

For me it was a silly mistake because both almost lost place to Norris. They werent fighting for a win and they werent 20sec ahead to have time to "ding dong battles". Sainz for a driver with the fame of being smart, today lacked some awareness.

[Fakepivot]

Ferrari choosing not to renew the contract = sacked? they are kind enough let him race, even ask charles to do team game in previous races...

[CaribouBread]

The moves from Sainz's perspective. I agree with what Rosberg said, he's aware of where Leclerc is and doesn't even try to make the apex.

[deadhead]

Weird move by Sainz but I get it .. he is trying to show everyone that he is a top tier driver

[dialtone]

Weird move by Sainz but I get it .. he is trying to show everyone that he is a top tier driver

By showing he’s willing to crash his teammate?

[deadhead]

Weird move by Sainz but I get it .. he is trying to show everyone that he is a top tier driver

By showing he’s willing to crash his teammate?

Hah I didn't say that particular move worked in his favor but I can just see that he has been overly enthusiastic, so hopefully the team principal can cool him off

[venkyhere]

Sainz in ungrateful. He expects his team mate to 'not-race' when he catches up from behind, yet he is all tooth and nails when he is the one being chased down. I was shocked to see no team orders on the radio - it's not even the main race !! Anyway, as I predicted (this thread or another, dont remember) leClerc is able to preserve his tyres better than Sainz in this race, despite both of them being in dirty air for almost the entire race. It was psychologically important for leClerc to finish ahead.

Ungrateful for what? Being sacked? The way I see it he has every right to defend his position, Charles the Clerk putting his car on the outside of the hairpin wasn't really going to work now was it.

It's a racing incident from a merit standpoint - the driver with inside line washing wide to throw the outside guy off track. But given the history since the latter half of 2023 until now, every time Sainz was faster behind leClerc, he was let through without a fight. Hence the 'ungrateful' comment is apt.

[Cs98]

Sainz in ungrateful. He expects his team mate to 'not-race' when he catches up from behind, yet he is all tooth and nails when he is the one being chased down. I was shocked to see no team orders on the radio - it's not even the main race !! Anyway, as I predicted (this thread or another, dont remember) leClerc is able to preserve his tyres better than Sainz in this race, despite both of them being in dirty air for almost the entire race. It was psychologically important for leClerc to finish ahead.

Ungrateful for what? Being sacked? The way I see it he has every right to defend his position, Charles the Clerk putting his car on the outside of the hairpin wasn't really going to work now was it.

Well Leclerc had to get outside the track to avoid damage, when he was at least side by side in the braking zone. So it wasn't probably a move but deserved at least some respect.

For me it was a silly mistake because both almost lost place to Norris. They werent fighting for a win and they werent 20sec ahead to have time to "ding dong battles". Sainz for a driver with the fame of being smart, today lacked some awareness.

If you are only side by side coming into a hairpin like that the guy on the outside is always going to be forced to yield. The sooner they realize the less they lose out.

[Xyz22]

Massive amount of work to be able to challenge the RB.

Leclerc needs to qualify ahead because the race pace is there already. In traffic you lose so much time, unless you have a massive delta like Max+RB20 have

[Sphere3758]

Why did Leclerc , Max and Sergio save the extra set of mediums ? Do they expect to do Q1 with mediums ?

[LetHimTrough]

Ungrateful for what? Being sacked? The way I see it he has every right to defend his position, Charles the Clerk putting his car on the outside of the hairpin wasn't really going to work now was it.

Well Leclerc had to get outside the track to avoid damage, when he was at least side by side in the braking zone. So it wasn't probably a move but deserved at least some respect.

For me it was a silly mistake because both almost lost place to Norris. They werent fighting for a win and they werent 20sec ahead to have time to "ding dong battles". Sainz for a driver with the fame of being smart, today lacked some awareness.

If you are only side by side coming into a hairpin like that the guy on the outside is always going to be forced to yield. The sooner they realize the less they lose out.

Exactly, I also don't think Charles could get it. But we all know an overtake sometimes take 3 or 4 corners prior to prepare, or pressure into a mistake.

What is also clear is Sainz knew where Charles was, and missed the apex. One of those nothing wrong fighting the teammate, but there are "some extra rules", for me missing appexes always looks horrible when fighting a teammate.

[Vanja #66]

Massive amount of work to be able to challenge the RB.

Leclerc needs to qualify ahead because the race pace is there already. In traffic you lose so much time, unless you have a massive delta like Max+RB20 have

Max' pace was not as good as I expected honestly, he had to wait for Alonso to start losing tyres before he could attack. It was the same with Hamilton. After that, Alonso and Sainz were slowing down Checo and Leclerc massively. Imagine how shot their tyres were at the end, yet they improved as soon as they got past those two...

The moves from Sainz's perspective. I agree with what Rosberg said, he's aware of where Leclerc is and doesn't even try to make the apex.

Amazing skills displayed by Charles. His cool head is why Ferrari got the points today, backing off and using the first chance to overtake cleanly. Would be a deserved penalty for Sainz if it wasn't a team battle, where FIA avoid intervening, just like Monza 23 should have been

[CaribouBread]

Amazing skills displayed by Charles. His cool head is why Ferrari got the points today, backing off and using the first chance to overtake cleanly. Would be a deserved penalty for Sainz if it wasn't a team battle, where FIA avoid intervening, just like Monza 23 should have been

Something I noticed just now, i remember someone else also pointing this out a few weeks ago, take a look at Sainz's *left* floor deflector vane. It is deflecting quite excessively on the straights.

[Vanja #66]

Something I noticed just now, i remember someone else also pointing this out a few weeks ago, take a look at Sainz's *left* floor deflector vane. It is deflecting quite excessively on the straights.

Damaged when fighting Alonso most likely

[Sphere3758]

Did Charles just use up 2 sets of softs in Q1 ?