2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[dialtone]

I told you guys we are miles off in terms of overall package. The race is already “over” meaning we have to work hard to overtake the slower cars ahead.

Disaster performance

It is what it is, we're weak in quali with this package. Tires still didn't turn on and the lack of wing made it even harder to put the power down in S1 and S2. In the sprint race we clearly had good tire degradation on LEC, less so on SAI that burned the tires following Max. So I still think they'll end up 3rd and 4th, depends what MCL does overall but I doubt Alonso will let them by easily.

Before Imola it will be hard to fix this when races are cold. Miami should be very warm though and then european season should equally be warm, so this issue should honestly improve on its own.

[Vinlarr89]

Bad quali, but there’s some really bad takes on here. Some of you are children. Alonso is the big problem for the race because he will happily play the cork all day long, by which point both RBRs will be long gone. Charles needs to pick off the mclarens efficiently which should be possible as they are limited on straights. Alonso will be more difficult. Red Bulls will be gone

[Xyz22]

I told you guys we are miles off in terms of overall package. The race is already “over” meaning we have to work hard to overtake the slower cars ahead.

Disaster performance

It is what it is, we're weak in quali with this package. Tires still didn't turn on and the lack of wing made it even harder to put the power down in S1 and S2. In the sprint race we clearly had good tire degradation on LEC, less so on SAI that burned the tires following Max. So I still think they'll end up 3rd and 4th, depends what MCL does overall but I doubt Alonso will let them by easily.

Before Imola it will be hard to fix this when races are cold. Miami should be very warm though and then european season should equally be warm, so this issue should honestly improve on its own.

It was to be expected after having almost no know how on this aero concept. They worked hard on race performance which was the right call but there is a lot of work to do.

Leclerc made a mistake in turn 16, losing around 0.2s. This is the norm now though as we had 2 drivers not having a complete clean lap in q3 yet.

We desperately need more performance, which should hopefully allow for a better setup compromise and therefore a bigger gain in quali specifically.

[K1Plus]

It will be tough tomorrow. P4 and P5 is doable. Aston Martin has an excellent top speed and aero efficiency.
Alonso will do what he does best, slightly slow his pace down so he saves it for later, then push at the end.

[Xyz22]

It will be tough tomorrow. P4 and P5 is doable. Aston Martin has an excellent top speed and aero efficiency.
Alonso will do what he does best, slightly slow his pace down so he saves it for later, then push at the end.

They will undercut him if that is the case.

[MattLightBlue]

I told you guys we are miles off in terms of overall package. The race is already “over” meaning we have to work hard to overtake the slower cars ahead.

Disaster performance

It is what it is, we're weak in quali with this package. Tires still didn't turn on and the lack of wing made it even harder to put the power down in S1 and S2. In the sprint race we clearly had good tire degradation on LEC, less so on SAI that burned the tires following Max. So I still think they'll end up 3rd and 4th, depends what MCL does overall but I doubt Alonso will let them by easily.

Before Imola it will be hard to fix this when races are cold. Miami should be very warm though and then european season should equally be warm, so this issue should honestly improve on its own.

At this point, I think Carlos made a more aggressive setup choice for this weekend: he does not have a great feel on this track, but he managed to be near Charles in quali. At the same time, he had more deg issues in the sprint race. Overall, without a step up in performance, it will always be a setup compromise that will allow us only to be behind both the red bulls.

[chrisc90]

Sainz set to lose his spot after AMR protest the results.

"39.6 Any driver whose car stops on the track during the qualifying session or the sprint shootout will
not be permitted to take any further part in that session."

Effectively, Sainz should not have been allowed to continue. Seems slam dunk to me.

[Xyz22]

Piastri could be a massive problem. His race pace in the sprint was absolutely awful and it's easy to lose time behind slower cars

[214270]

Piastri could be a massive problem. His race pace in the sprint was absolutely awful and it's easy to lose time behind slower cars

He was on used tyres.

[CaribouBread]

Sainz set to lose his spot after AMR protest the results.

"39.6 Any driver whose car stops on the track during the qualifying session or the sprint shootout will
not be permitted to take any further part in that session."

Effectively, Sainz should not have been allowed to continue. Seems slam dunk to me.

It'll depend on how the Stewards interpret "stopped on track", Sainz did get to the pits on his own power and no external help (marshalls pushing him/tow truck)

[venkyhere]

Anything poorer than P3 and P4 will be a disaster for Ferrari.
The Mclarens and Aston are either poor in the straights or bad with tyre wear. Without any safety car or any mechanical damage, in normal course, I expect the Ferraris to go past them by 2/3rd race distance. I still think Ferrari have the next best race pace to Redbull.

[chrisc90]

Sainz set to lose his spot after AMR protest the results.

"39.6 Any driver whose car stops on the track during the qualifying session or the sprint shootout will
not be permitted to take any further part in that session."

Effectively, Sainz should not have been allowed to continue. Seems slam dunk to me.

It'll depend on how the Stewards interpret "stopped on track", Sainz did get to the pits on his own power and no external help (marshalls pushing him/tow truck)

Yeah thats true.

He did effectively stop, due to the wheels not turning, but stopping on track and requiring external help might be the one to look for.

Im sure Ferrari are scrolling the archives now for where cars have spun and become stationary on track and being allowed to continue. But they might have fell under a yellow flag rather than red.

Definitely a few angles you can look at it, but you'd need strong previous instances of stopping on track and continuing, to sway the wording in the sporting regs. Shame.

[IntrinsicVoid]

The irrational thinking is that I can get spin around, end up on tarmac outside of the track, temporarily stop and get back to the pits by myself and at the end get “slam dunk” penalty.

[FW17]

Sainz started a lap after the red flag, should be another penalty.

[chrisc90]

Sainz started a lap after the red flag, should be another penalty.

He had passed the pit entry though. It was either drive round again, or drive backwards on the track. I dont think moving yourself from the scene of the incident and returning to the pits in this instance warrants any penalty.