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Venturiation wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 20:43
First he says the setups were the same now he says they are completely different clown behavior
AMuS also has Russell mentioning him and Lewis having two different setups and it being neccessary
Russell defended the split of set-ups: "We have to go different ways to learn more about our car." This is also the view of some engineers. They insist that the W15 is a better car than the W14. "We have improved compared to last year. Unfortunately, our opponents have improved even more, so we are now worse in relation."
Maybe when he mentioned "we" in relation to having similar setups the first time he was talking about his side of the garage? sometimes drivers say "we" when they just mean their side, Perez does it as well.

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Venturiation wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 20:43
First he says the setups were the same now he says they are completely different clown behavior
I think Lewis also said, in the sprint they had very similar setup, but due to understeer they went two very different directions for the race.

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The new floor and sidepods in Miami will probably be a good step! :)

Will Mercedes fill out the bluffness of the flat outer face of their sidepods a bit more, like the other cars? Or rather Mercedes have confidence in their own direction? :)

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Venturiation wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 20:43
First he says the setups were the same now he says they are completely different clown behavior
😂 LOL.. he’s thinking the same as the Merc Engineers. So he’s a clown himself.
Snap out of it. With the floor era it’s not about maximum downforce anymore. To much=to much!
The day they start to think about optimal downforce over the whole speed range…they might finally catch up…

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Venturiation wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 20:43
First he says the setups were the same now he says they are completely different clown behavior
That's our Georgie. Lieing through his teeth!
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JordanMugen wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 23:41
The new floor and sidepods in Miami will probably be a good step! :)
A proper floor with synergistic side pods would be good for them. The entire car thread should just have one post, “we need a good floor,” until they have one lol.

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Just_a_fan wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 13:11
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23 Apr 2024, 07:08
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22 Apr 2024, 06:02
I kind of agree that Toto needs to go. I like him as a character and for what he has done for the team over the years. But he can bring no mor3 new ideas as team principal.
He should be CEO then bring Binnotto in as teamp principal.
I think that, should Mercedes look for another TP, they should bring Ross Brawn back. He has shown that he's a good TP, he grasps the technical aspects of formula 1, has a good eye for technical talent and, IMHO, is a charismatic leader. I believe he could have the same effect that Fred Vasseur is having at Ferrari.
Ross Brawn is retired and at nearly 70 years of age probably doesn't want the crap that comes with being a TP. Why risk your legacy as one of the great TPs at his stage of life?
From Ross Brawn's perspective you could argue that it's not worth the hassle, but from Mercedes's perspective I argue it would make sense.
If he's unavailable, I would try to poach Vasseur but I certainly wouldn't go for Binotto. Toto is a better TP than Mattia.

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What is the scope of testing the W13 with W15 parts for fundamental understanding of the floor concept?

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Not only does the gap between Mercedes and its rivals fluctuate, but it also changes within its own drivers. Set-up experimentation has again returned, something that was especially costly for Hamilton in China.

“The car is difficult to set up, and I think in China, for Lewis, it was very, very far from optimal.

“He was driving on a razor’s edge and chose a setup in which the car simply wouldn’t turn when cornering,” commented Wolff after the race.

Mercedes will bring the first innovations to Miami –“It will be interesting to see their impact on the car.”

https://formu1a.uno/en/f1-news-toto-wol ... -to-night/

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FW17 wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 08:38
What is the scope of testing the W13 with W15 parts for fundamental understanding of the floor concept?
I don't think that would be allowed

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Just_a_fan wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 13:24
chrisc90 wrote:
23 Apr 2024, 09:42
Why doesn’t Lewis make his extreme setups in Free Practice? 3 hours and can start with a extreme setup, go the other way and meet in middle.

Then again, wasn’t this the team that was making excuses in Bahrain GP after 27 hours of testing?
The team has a programme of things they do during FR such as long runs and the like in order to check cooling, tyre use, etc.. And he does sometimes change the setup between FP sessions. The issue is that he doesn't seem to want to go back to something that worked if the experiments don't work out. Maybe they just leave it too late because of the team's programme taking up the majority of the time.

His changing the set up in China did seem to be a dumb thing to do and quite why his engineers didn't tell him to leave it alone is beyond me. Maybe they also think the car can be magically set up to overcome its obvious issues.
Bono took part of the blame for it. Looks like Bono is also interested in the experiments.
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Mechanics from each driver are isolated
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That isn't the case anymore. It was only during 2015-16 when their rivalry ramped up and the two sides of the garage stopped working together

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Venturiation wrote:
24 Apr 2024, 18:16
Mechanics from each driver are isolated
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL8GahlWQAA ... me=900x900
Still dining on the HAM rivalry. I guess I should be well used to the news cycle of past endeavours in order to promote your new venture method of marketing, but it’s all a bit stale. Been there, done that
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