2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Wouter]

Some irrevocable facts :
- Jos Verstappen is a very toxic personality

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

What has Jos to do with Newey leaving RBR?

Why is Jos a very toxic personality? Give me some examples please. Thanks.

[les arcs]

Some irrevocable facts :
- Jos Verstappen is a very toxic personality

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

What has Jos to do with Newey leaving RBR?

Why is Jos a very toxic personality? Give me some examples please. Thanks.

Google is your friend…

[Wouter]

Some irrevocable facts :
- Jos Verstappen is a very toxic personality

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

What has Jos to do with Newey leaving RBR?

Why is Jos a very toxic personality? Give me some examples please. Thanks.

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Google is your friend…

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Why should I use Google when I know Jos for 35 years now?!

[Watto]

Some irrevocable facts :
- Jos Verstappen is a very toxic personality

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

What has Jos to do with Newey leaving RBR?

Why is Jos a very toxic personality? Give me some examples please. Thanks.

Controversy

After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father, Frans, were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]

In December 2008, with the couple effectively separated, Verstappen appeared in court in Tongeren, Belgium, charged with assaulting his wife, Sophie Kumpen.[35] He was found not guilty of assault, but guilty of threatening Kumpen in text messages and of violating a previously issued restraining order. He was fined and sentenced to three months probational, suspended prison sentence.[36]

On 29 November 2011, the media reported allegations that Verstappen had assaulted his ex-girlfriend; Verstappen claimed to only have had a discussion with her.[37] In January 2012, he was arrested on attempted murder charges following accusations that he drove a car into his ex-girlfriend in Roermond,[38] but released two weeks later after the charge was withdrawn.[39] Verstappen and his ex-girlfriend, Kelly van der Waal, got back together and were married in 2014. They have one daughter, Blue Jaye, born in September 2014.[40] They divorced on 2 June 2017.

Also been told to back off by RBR https://f1i.com/news/429969-jos-verstap ... l.html/amp


I’m sure I’ve seek Marko has had to ban Jos from the RB garage on more than one occasion

[chrisc90]

Well it’s official

Leaves first quarter of 2025

[venkyhere]

Some irrevocable facts :
- Jos Verstappen is a very toxic personality

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This is where I stopped reading your post.

your choice, it's upto you to read further or not.

What has Jos to do with Newey leaving RBR?

My post was not about Newey leaving, it was about the speculation around the team imploding from within and how this forum is busy assigning what led to what chain of events.

Why is Jos a very toxic personality? Give me some examples please. Thanks.

- Throws a tantrum whenever Sergio Perez wins, claiming "my son is not given enough preference"
- Leveraged the CEO-PA sex chat scandal to take the high moral ground (despite himself being involved in multiple 'abuse of women' cases) and pour oil into fire, aiming to stirr up the narrative against Horner. The funniest thing is that Jos has zero role within the team, he is just the 'nosey dad' of their driver.
- What's worse is that unlike other 'driver dad' people, this guy has actually been in an F1 team. So he knows 'what needs to stay within the team' shouldn't go out to the media.

This much is enough for me to know how toxic he is.

[Wouter]

Did it become official "today" (Yesterday)? -Sources close to Newey.

F1-insider is as bad as TheJudge13 for peddling clickbait news. It seems they were punting on the eventuality to happen today, which hasn't yet. Just like Horner was supposed to have been fired in February, well before the launch of the car.

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The intention was to announce it yesterday, but since it was the anniversary of the death of Roland Ratzenberger
and today of Ayrton Senna, it was postponed until tomorrow out of respect.

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I guess F1-insider didn't keep a decent "F1 events of Significance" calendar.

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Well, F1 Insider wasn't far from the date , was it?!

[f1isgood]

Well it’s official

Leaves first quarter of 2025

That would mean he cannot work for another team until 2026? Or does he get to immediately move to another team?
Nevermind. His gardening is 12 months, so he will join early 2026 if he goes to Ferrari then.

[Mansell89]

Wow, it has happened then.

Pastures new for everyone- Newey clearly not retiring based on his comment “However, I feel now is an opportune moment to hand that baton over to others and to seek new challenges for myself.“

But a new chapter for Red Bull as they hit new regs in 26 without Adrian and with their own engine.

Interesting!

[Vanja #66]

Since he's stepping away from F1-related duties almost a full year in advance, there is no legal basis for F1-related gardening leave

I'm sure RBR legal team will try to stick to some other story though

[chrisc90]

That would mean he cannot work for another team until 2026? Or does he get to immediately move to another team?
Nevermind. His gardening is 12 months, so he will join early 2026 if he goes to Ferrari then.

The way I have interpreted that is he has stepped down from F1 duties as of now - and will focus on the RB17 for a year when it’s expected to be complete.

That probably satisfies his gardening leave clauses on the contract, meaning he’s free to start work from ~1st quarter of 2025. May 1st onwards.


If for anyone else, that’s 5 months development into 2026 car so likely not be able to have a massive effect if he moves to another team

[Aesop]

Well it’s official

Leaves first quarter of 2025

That would mean he cannot work for another team until 2026? Or does he get to immediately move to another team?
Nevermind. His gardening is 12 months, so he will join early 2026 if he goes to Ferrari then.

I'd say there is no gardening leave after that. He won't he involved anymore in any way with design of next years car effective from today (end of first Quarter more or less) so i guess Ferrari can pick him from Q2 25 on.

[f1isgood]

Thanks to both @Aesop and @chrisc90 for the explanations

[Watto]

Well it’s official

Leaves first quarter of 2025

That would mean he cannot work for another team until 2026? Or does he get to immediately move to another team?
Nevermind. His gardening is 12 months, so he will join early 2026 if he goes to Ferrari then.

I'd say there is no gardening leave after that. He won't he involved anymore in any way with design of next years car effective from today (end of first Quarter more or less) so i guess Ferrari can pick him from Q2 25 on.

yeah that’s how I read it too this is basically his gardening leave he will continue with the HyperCar and step away from F1 in the mean time

[timorous]

Well it’s official

Leaves first quarter of 2025

That would mean he cannot work for another team until 2026? Or does he get to immediately move to another team?
Nevermind. His gardening is 12 months, so he will join early 2026 if he goes to Ferrari then.

I'd say there is no gardening leave after that. He won't he involved anymore in any way with design of next years car effective from today (end of first Quarter more or less) so i guess Ferrari can pick him from Q2 25 on.

Entirely depends on if it is start or end of Q1 or some date in the middle. The latest another team can have him work on the books would be Q2 2025 which would be April 1st but it could be earlier in Q1. Still with work starting on the 2026 cars as of Jan 2025 there is nothing stopping Newey from looking at it and coming up with ideas in his own time.