2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:16
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 May 2024, 12:45
I've always thought Mercedes would be untouchable had Wolff realised he isn't a technical minded TP. A combination of him handling business matters and say a Horner type team boss would make a very efficient and successful team. Maybe in another dimension hey.
Wolff doesn't bring anything to the table. He didn't bring it to Mercedes when they were champions and he does not do it now. The only thing he brings is dividends to himself as 1/3rd team owner and that's it. Kudos for understanding Ross Brawn built a very good team in Brackley and Brixworth HPP were building a great PU for 2014, leading him to invest in the team.
Said the same ages ago.
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Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:25
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:19
Tbh, he will never leave the team. He won't step down.
Yeah... Well, why should near self destruction after period of great success be only Ferrari and McLaren thing... :)
Lol'd =D> :mrgreen:

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Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:25
Jdn1327 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:19
Tbh, he will never leave the team. He won't step down.
Yeah... Well, why should near self destruction after period of great success be only Ferrari and McLaren thing... :)
:D :D for sure...let merc take their place among the greats for this

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Vanja #66 wrote:
03 May 2024, 13:16
Wolff doesn't bring anything to the table. He didn't bring it to Mercedes when they were champions and he does not do it now. The only thing he brings is dividends to himself as 1/3rd team owner and that's it. Kudos for understanding Ross Brawn built a very good team in Brackley and Brixworth HPP were building a great PU for 2014, leading him to invest in the team.
I mostly agree, but to his favor he is very good at politics. Inside and outside of the team. That's how he could take it over and also playing the underdog during all those dominant years, forcing multiple rule changes etc. Probably he is the best when it comes to advocacy.

I know many fans are disappointed in him due to Abu Dhabi, but honestly that happened so quickly there was not much he could do and after the fact there was no going back. Still he finished Masi etc.

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Paa wrote:
03 May 2024, 15:37
I mostly agree, but to his favor he is very good at politics. Inside and outside of the team. That's how he could take it over and also playing the underdog during all those dominant years, forcing multiple rule changes etc. Probably he is the best when it comes to advocacy.

I know many fans are disappointed in him due to Abu Dhabi, but honestly that happened so quickly there was not much he could do and after the fact there was no going back. Still he finished Masi etc.
His "skill" in politics does not come from skill or eloquence, it comes from power of wealth and influence of having Hamilton as a driver. He's built his wealth by investing, starting from tech and IT companies in late 90s, it was a smart thing at the time but 10-15 years too late to be considered visionary. After that, he continued with smart investments in mobility and motorsport. He's good at investments, but that's not what's required from an F1 TP
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Politics off (obviously, not meaning Toto here). Posts poofed. You know the rules in this forum.
Rivals, not enemies.

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https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/merc ... /10606273/

"This is mainly just general development," said Mercedes trackside engineering director Andrew Shovlin.

"We'd originally planned to bring this to Imola, which also has some revisions around the rear wing and beam wing area.

"But we've done a good job to pull it forward and managed to get two here. We've got one on each car, which is a reasonable step.

"We've had the same car since the start of the season more or less, so it's good that we can start to bring some more performance.

"Over the next four or five races, there are other developments that we're looking at to try and get the car handling a bit more consistently, and a bit less tricky to work with. But that's all coming in the next few [races].


He added: "We are just behind on development, which is one of the areas we need to improve. But also just getting the car to be a bit more versatile across a range of tracks will be a very important focus for us."

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Luscion wrote:
03 May 2024, 21:21
Hopefully, the FIA will stick to their own regulations.

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Looks like it was Williams who made the request, so plan might be to give him experience in f1 there then him move up to Merc?

Interestingly, the request does not appear to have come from Mercedes.




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So much for Mercedes' upgrade package. P11 and P12 in SQ2. 8 tenths off McLaren.

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Not a good look at all. Even if their full Imola package could bring them half a second (which is a huge number really), it wouldn't put them any better than what Leclerc did.

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All you can do is laugh at this point

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Toto looks a mess. Looked like he’s been on a two day bender in that garage.

Absolute shambles.

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Seems like the car still just doesnt work when its not cold
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