2024 Miami Grand Prix - Miami Intl. Autodrome, May 03 - 05

[mkay]

But why no penalty for that start by Hamilton?he really went gung ho. 3 guys out. I just saw the top view and it was really without regard for anyone.

The T1 shenanigans began unfolding well before Lewis got to the apex.

[Luscion]

Magnussen basically admitting he did what he did to Lewis on purpose and saying he had to do it in the post race debrief is...interesting...

“Be vulnerable with Lewis (and) use these stupid tactics which i didn’t like doing”

“not the way I like to go racing but had to be done”

[Cs98]

The penalty is harsh. The speeding was with all cars being diverted through the pitlane. The risk and danger is much less when no pitstops are taking place.
As for the Norris incident. Stroll and Alonso pretty much pinched each other in. Hamilton rightly cannot be blamed for that one.
Hamilton kept on the apex with a tiny lock up.
Alonso Navigating to avoid Stroll was the main cause of that crash. 4 cars into one corner carries this risk.

Either way Hamilton displaying his arsenal of race tactics to get by mad man Magnussen and then Tsunoda. Both stout defenders.
Should be fun in a Ferrari.

Mercedes car still has some good qualities despite it being a midfeild car now. They are behind Vcarb and Aston for sure.

He wasn't on the apex when he made contact with Stroll, he locked up, went in deep and started a domino that ended with Alonso hitting the back of Norris. Should've been a penalty given what Alonso has been penalised for in China.

[chrisc90]

The penalty is harsh. The speeding was with all cars being diverted through the pitlane. The risk and danger is much less when no pitstops are taking place.
As for the Norris incident. Stroll and Alonso pretty much pinched each other in. Hamilton rightly cannot be blamed for that one.
Hamilton kept on the apex with a tiny lock up.
Alonso Navigating to avoid Stroll was the main cause of that crash. 4 cars into one corner carries this risk.

Either way Hamilton displaying his arsenal of race tactics to get by mad man Magnussen and then Tsunoda. Both stout defenders.
Should be fun in a Ferrari.

Mercedes car still has some good qualities despite it being a midfeild car now. They are behind Vcarb and Aston for sure.

Depends how much he is speeding by though. Its the pitlane, shouldnt make a difference if there is team personnel in the pit or not. Speeding is speeding.

Turn 1. Lewis was never hitting the apex, or even following it. The onboard shows it. Just a bit unfortunate that 4 into 1 didnt really go. I'm sure we have seen turn 1 incidents penalised this season however, and lewis ruined 3 drivers races.

[Sieper]

But why no penalty for that start by Hamilton?he really went gung ho. 3 guys out. I just saw the top view and it was really without regard for anyone.

The T1 shenanigans began unfolding well before Lewis got to the apex.

Have a look at the top view please. That Alonso does everything to solve it for him made the difference.

[CaribouBread]

Forgot about the Sprint race, now I have to wait for the highlights on Youtube. Not a fan of the format to say the least!

[Mogster]

It’s hysterical how many great race tracks in the US are considered FIA Tier 2, and unsuitable for F1, but this is.

Barber, Sonoma Raceway would be much better racetracks

They’d both be like Monaco. Indycars can barely overtake at Barber and Sears point, narrow and hardly any braking zones. There’s no way you could overtake in an F1 car.

For old times sake I’d like to see F1 return to Watkins, although an overtaking fest it wouldn’t be…

[TFSA]

Wonder whether Mercedes will appeal the penalty. A DT for a pitlane speeding infraction is completely out of proportion.

They don't have any recourse for appeal here. You don't get to appeal whether a penalty is too harsh or not - you only get to appeal whether it was warranted in the first place.

If he speeded he speeded, and there's no grounds for appeal. Why the stewards decided it should be this harsh we can't know yet - but it could be because it was during the SC (Safety Car through pitlane), or because the speeding was excessive (like he forgot to put on the pit lane limiter or something).

[214270]

The penalty is harsh. The speeding was with all cars being diverted through the pitlane. The risk and danger is much less when no pitstops are taking place.
As for the Norris incident. Stroll and Alonso pretty much pinched each other in. Hamilton rightly cannot be blamed for that one.
Hamilton kept on the apex with a tiny lock up.
Alonso Navigating to avoid Stroll was the main cause of that crash. 4 cars into one corner carries this risk.

Either way Hamilton displaying his arsenal of race tactics to get by mad man Magnussen and then Tsunoda. Both stout defenders.
Should be fun in a Ferrari.

Mercedes car still has some good qualities despite it being a midfeild car now. They are behind Vcarb and Aston for sure.

Yeah, I concur. That looks like ALO into STR before HAM joined the party. Very lucky, because that’s HAMs fault absent of the Aston collisions.

[stephen]

Ricciardo on the post race show looks like a guy who just saved his career.

[Spacepace]

Magnussen basically admitting he did what he did to Lewis on purpose and saying he had to do it in the post race debrief is...interesting...

Yeah it is obviously team tactics/strategy when in this position. He said he hates to do it and get stupid penalties but at least Hulkenberg scored points for the team. He wasn't happy with Hulkenberg either not keeping him in the DRS to defend off Hamilton. Probably feels like Hulkenberg is getting credit for his sacrifices

[Sieper]

Well, that is true. Not sure what to say, these offer one guy up shenanigans are total crap.

[TFSA]

Yeah it is obviously team tactics/strategy when in this position. He said he hates to do it and get stupid penalties but at least Hulkenberg scored points for the team. He wasn't happy with Hulkenberg either not keeping him in the DRS to defend off Hamilton. Probably feels like Hulkenberg is getting credit for his sacrifices

Last part is not true. After they did the same in Jeddah, the team heavily praised Magnussen for helping Hulkenberg and holding everyone up. He got a lot of credit from the team there.

[Luscion]

Magnussen basically admitting he did what he did to Lewis on purpose and saying he had to do it in the post race debrief is...interesting...

Yeah it is obviously team tactics/strategy when in this position. He said he hates to do it and get stupid penalties but at least Hulkenberg scored points for the team. He wasn't happy with Hulkenberg either not keeping him in the DRS to defend off Hamilton. Probably feels like Hulkenberg is getting credit for his sacrifices

i feel like admitting to going off track to gain an advantage, running a car off the track so they lose the position and hitting into them should get you some penalty points imo

[Sieper]

Magnussen basically admitting he did what he did to Lewis on purpose and saying he had to do it in the post race debrief is...interesting...

Yeah it is obviously team tactics/strategy when in this position. He said he hates to do it and get stupid penalties but at least Hulkenberg scored points for the team. He wasn't happy with Hulkenberg either not keeping him in the DRS to defend off Hamilton. Probably feels like Hulkenberg is getting credit for his sacrifices

i feel like admitting to going off track to gain an advantage, running a car off the track so they lose the position and hitting into them should get you some penalty points imo

Mmh. And lying about your intentions should mean you come off Scott free?