2024 Monaco Grand Prix - Monte Carlo, May 24 - 26

[johnny vee]

Sainz penalty still a possibility...?

[bananapeel23]

Sainz penalty still a possibility...?

Near-certainty I would say unless they let it slide because Albon got into Q3 anyway. He was very clearly impeding.

[Spoutnik]

Wonder if the poleman can go below 1.10s. Hamilton did 1.10.1 in 2019 with a yellow S3 (little moment at la Rascasse)

I'll be pleasantly surprised if anyone goes below mid 10s

It was close !

[deadhead]

Wonder if the poleman can go below 1.10s. Hamilton did 1.10.1 in 2019 with a yellow S3 (little moment at la Rascasse)

I'll be pleasantly surprised if anyone goes below mid 10s

It was close !

Piastri had a 1.10.2 in him so I think, conditions permitting, they might get down to 10.1 next year

[bananapeel23]

I'll be pleasantly surprised if anyone goes below mid 10s

It was close !

Piastri had a 1.10.2 in him so I think, conditions permitting, they might get down to 10.1 next year

I'm certain we're getting a 1:09 in 2025 assuming the weather is good. I think the 2024 cars might even be capable of it if it's like 18 c and cloudy.

[Gillian]

That was awesome! Halfway there Leclerc, lets go!

Impressed with Piastri as well, definitely improving.

Perez....

But seriously how great was this qualifying, wow so close!

[renault rs26]

The particular member here has a lot of problems lately snd is spewing it in the comments. I hoped mods would have a talk with this individual and aparently nothing happened.

I suspect this individual has special privilidges here, since he is allowed to be trolling here.

And this individual was the loudest about good behaviour some time ago, jet being far more toxic.

Today i have decided to poke him where it hurts a bit, since his bitterness comes from year 21 onwards.

Seems like I'm not the one hurting here.

Perez was outqualified by Sargeant in a Williams, let this sink in.

Indeed. RedBull aparently became to crumble much faster than expected. You would think that they could keep the momentum until 26, but they are loosing their breath allready.

I hope Mclaren takes over the oportunity, but it will be a strong fight with Ferrari for it though.

Maybe wind tunnel penalties have bigger consequences than expected.

[Spoutnik]

It's difficult to understand because his first run wasn't that bad, he wasn't so far

[codetower]

What a lap! Very exciting front row! Im hoping we dont see a “suspicious” safety car / red flag in the race by Perez. Its the only way he’d help Red Bull during this race.

[chrisc90]

Not reallu.

Max certainly did not do a decent job.

<> The car should have been second IMO. He wasn't second because Max out-braked himself at turn one. It's just something Max rare ever does so he obviously crumbled a bit under the pressure, the kind of pressure he hasn't felt in years.

I dont think the car rides the kerbs well. Seen it across the weekend so far where it gets pushed over the kerb rather than riding it (if that makes sense).

It will be interesting to know where the car was lacking in S2. As S1 Max was always up on everyone else.

I wouldn't call it pressure, just the car not being fully there for him when he needs it - which seems to be from underlying characteristics of the chassis.

[ringo]

At some point we have to accept the car is not to blame for everytime there is an undrrperformance. Other cars out there on the track have their quirks and the drivers have to live with them and get the best out of it.
Max had consistently the fastest or second fastest car since FP3. In the qualy sessions RB20 could have snatched pole if Leclerc didnt wake up. It's okay to accept that Max bottled it. Most drivers do atleast once. Also Monaco is not Max's best track. He has messed up his qualifying here at least 3 or 4 years in his career and the car was not to blame for any of them.
It's life, there's always the next race for him to be on pole. He still leads the championship by dozens of points.
Now Ferrari and McLaren can close in on thr constructors.

[sport777]

At some point we have to accept the car is not to blame for everytime there is an undrrperformance. Other cars out there on the track have their quirks and the drivers have to live with them and get the best out of it.
Max had consistently the fastest or second fastest car since FP3. In the qualy sessions RB20 could have snatched pole if Leclerc didnt wake up. It's okay to accept that Max bottled it. Most drivers do atleast once. Also Monaco is not Max's best track. He has messed up his qualifying here at least 3 or 4 years in his career and the car was not to blame for any of them.
It's life, there's always the next race for him to be on pole. He still leads the championship by dozens of points.
Now Ferrari and McLaren can close in on thr constructors.

RB's chassis is clearly no longer the best, it seems to me that McLaren and Ferrari are exactly on par, I'm sure if Mercedes brings a couple of updates it will still be in the lead, while Verstappen with his talent sometimes takes the car out of his head

[ringo]

Ok. Well Max was to be P2 here going by all the sessions.
Nonethless i suspect Redbull can steal a win here. They are good on strategy. They can use Perez to make it happen.

I am not too trusting of Ferrari to manage this race well. They may fluff it and Charles may lose it to Sainz, or to McLaren.

Hamilton seem to be suffering from the old man curse like Alonso. Looked better than Russel all weekend until it mattered.
But at least he is there or thereabout. Putting the car whereit is expected to be. He usually gets a good start. So may be ahead of Max and Russel at the start.

Alpine dont look like the big failure that they were at the begining of the season. They are making bigger steps than Aston Martin given their relatively unknown technical team.

Mclaren was a suprise to me. I didnt expect them to be going so well in qualifying. They just didnt seem consistent enough.

It's a shame that race pace is less important here and overtaking is impossible. Would have been nice to see those with good race pace have an edge and mix things up a bit.

[PlatinumZealot]

Hamilton did not elect to run the upgraded wing it was revealed. It is worth two tenths according to Lewis.

[bananapeel23]

At some point we have to accept the car is not to blame for everytime there is an undrrperformance. Other cars out there on the track have their quirks and the drivers have to live with them and get the best out of it.
Max had consistently the fastest or second fastest car since FP3. In the qualy sessions RB20 could have snatched pole if Leclerc didnt wake up. It's okay to accept that Max bottled it. Most drivers do atleast once. Also Monaco is not Max's best track. He has messed up his qualifying here at least 3 or 4 years in his career and the car was not to blame for any of them.
It's life, there's always the next race for him to be on pole. He still leads the championship by dozens of points.
Now Ferrari and McLaren can close in on thr constructors.

Red Bull performing poorly here was entirely predictable. I think they just decided to live with the fact that their car rides bumps poorly, since that is only an issue at some tracks, whereas the benefits they gain from that suspension setup has been deemed a worthwhile tradeoff over the season. That car is absolutely disgustingly fast on smooth tracks and even if they struggle compared to Ferrari and McLaren at 1/3 of the tracks on the calendar, the huge advantage at the other 2/3 of tracks is deemed worth it.

I've said it before, Vanja can deny it as much as he wants, but Ferrari has the best ride quality and is exceptional at bumpy tracks. That isn't a championship winning characteristic if they can't reach the load levels of Red Bull due to the compromises the ride quality entails. Only if they can reach Red Bull levels of outright performance on like half of the non-bumpy tracks is it a viable concept. Or if McLaren and Red Bull start trading wins on normal tracks and Ferrari dominates the bumpy ones.