2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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He should say “I resign…”
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Nikosar wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:28
Rikrikrik wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:17
Sacrifice Alonso to benefit Stroll is unreal, they should changed positions before. Stroll always ruin everything.
You don't have a crystal ball to see the future and the puncture of Stroll? Amazing by Alonso built the gap for Stroll and hold position for +70 laps without DRS

Now head down and they have two weeks before Canada to find pace on the car and rise the level. Last year Mclaren started from line 5 of grid today they are in front. Still 16 races to finish the season and fix issues.
You never could trust in Stroll man. Never.

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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:29
He should say “I resign…”
Why do people always think that TPs are technical ? They're mangers, they don't make technical decisions. Performance problems fall on Dan Fall -owes :) .
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This all depends on Lawrence's patience and impulse control to not fire the entire technical team.
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I think Stroll hit the wall hence he had a tyre issue.

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KimiRai wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:33
This all depends on Lawrence's patience and impulse control to not fire the entire technical team. I wouldn't blame him
That's the way a child would react. Not a business man of his caliber. Krack could fire Fallows or make changes to the structure.
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diffuser wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:34
KimiRai wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:33
This all depends on Lawrence's patience and impulse control to not fire the entire technical team. I wouldn't blame him
That's the way a child would react. Not a business man of his caliber.
Lots of people talk about McLaren's resurgence, wind tunnel and all, but don't mention James Key was sacked...

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Mark Helmut stated Red Bull's correlation from track to simulator does not work and this is significant issue. Same issue impacting Aston since last year....

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KimiRai wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:35
diffuser wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:34
KimiRai wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:33
This all depends on Lawrence's patience and impulse control to not fire the entire technical team. I wouldn't blame him
That's the way a child would react. Not a business man of his caliber.
Lots of people talk about McLaren's resurgence, but don't mention James Key was sacked...

Was he sacked or did he leave for Audi ?

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diffuser wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:32
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:29
He should say “I resign…”
Why do people always think that TPs are technical ? They're mangers, they don't make technical decisions. Performance problems fall on Dan Fall -owes :) .
Manager is in the end responsible for the team, it’s perfomance and to oversee and motivate his employees… Krack just seems too chill and mellow for that…
Team Fernando!

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Nikosar wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:36
Mark Helmut stated Red Bull's correlation from track to simulator does not work and this is significant issue. Same issue impacting Aston since last year....
Why do we think there is a correlation issue? Didn't Alonso say the car was hard to drive in the simulator too ?

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yeah last thing the team needs is a revolving door like ferrari and mclaren (in past years). don't kid yourselves, the only reason vasseur is safe at ferrari for the time being is the car is half decent and the strategy is ok. if anything goes wrong he's the first one out. and someone else in. that's wrong because it doesn't solve the problem
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diffuser wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:38
Nikosar wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:36
Mark Helmut stated Red Bull's correlation from track to simulator does not work and this is significant issue. Same issue impacting Aston since last year....
Why do we think there is a correlation issue? Didn't Alonso say the car was hard to drive in the simulator too ?
It was McCullough indicated the reason of last year downfall caused by the correlation issue. Alonso indicated that the car is harder and harder to drive after the new package. But the fact that they missed the upgrade make me think that they did not fix the correlation issue.

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Nikosar wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:36
Mark Helmut stated Red Bull's correlation from track to simulator does not work and this is significant issue. Same issue impacting Aston since last year....
Since Newey left they have a lot of problems as I predicted, read my old posts, they risk losing the world championship. Aston Martin's goal in my opinion must be sign Newey at all costs. In 2023 if it hadn't been for the strategy, Alonso would have won the race and now he also finds himself behind the Alpine team. The decline is too evident and something must be done, there are no more excuses, they really risk becoming the last team on the grid, we absolutely need to intervene with drastic decisions and I am confident that they will do so. It's not a question of being children, F1 is a business and in this there are no friends. Having said that, a lot of people went against me and in the end I was right, I prepared my pillow and Alonso brought took the car home without doing any damage which was the only thing to do

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PinkFloydPulse wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:38
diffuser wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:32
PinkFloydPulse wrote:
26 May 2024, 17:29
He should say “I resign…”
Why do people always think that TPs are technical ? They're mangers, they don't make technical decisions. Performance problems fall on Dan Fall -owes :) .
Manager is in the end responsible for the team, it’s performance and to oversee and motivate his employees… Krack just seems too chill and mellow for that…

I have no idea if Krack is doing a good job or not. I just hope whoever decides to keep him or fire him isn't doing it based on his demeanor. Again, there are ways to evaluate people. Also remember the internal plan was always to fight for race wins starting in 2026.

I'm 80% certain that they had few upgrades @ the beginning of last year cause of the move. They never used it as an excuse, though they could have. I'm not sure what else could be going on to impact things.