Let's hope not P2.
Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:48With how close things are looking now, I think the car is good enough to fight it out with both Ferrari and RedBull (on a good day). I would expect Silverstone to be the next race where they bring upgrades.
It makes sense, logistically, and it's also where rivals are rumored to bring pats as well. If they can do one better and bring them in Austria again, then that would be great. I have a feeling this next raft of updates will be extremely important for the remaining half of the season.
I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:53Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:48With how close things are looking now, I think the car is good enough to fight it out with both Ferrari and RedBull (on a good day). I would expect Silverstone to be the next race where they bring upgrades.
It makes sense, logistically, and it's also where rivals are rumored to bring pats as well. If they can do one better and bring them in Austria again, then that would be great. I have a feeling this next raft of updates will be extremely important for the remaining half of the season.
Papaya has reached a competitive plateau. There is no doubt that this will continue until the end of the season.
How can you say that with confidence? Piastri would be on pole with his best sectors and in the race, no one was at the limit.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:15I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:53Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:48With how close things are looking now, I think the car is good enough to fight it out with both Ferrari and RedBull (on a good day). I would expect Silverstone to be the next race where they bring upgrades.
It makes sense, logistically, and it's also where rivals are rumored to bring pats as well. If they can do one better and bring them in Austria again, then that would be great. I have a feeling this next raft of updates will be extremely important for the remaining half of the season.
Papaya has reached a competitive plateau. There is no doubt that this will continue until the end of the season.
I expect to see them very competitive in Canada again.
Well based on Leclerc's performance all weekend, I'd agree Ferrari were better here. I don't know if anyone has taken a close look at Leclerc's pole lap, it's possible he didn't string in his best possible lap as well.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:21How can you say that with confidence? Piastri would be on pole with his best sectors and in the race, no one was at the limit.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:15I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:53
Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.
Papaya has reached a competitive plateau. There is no doubt that this will continue until the end of the season.
I expect to see them very competitive in Canada again.
Without that pole, it is likely a clean McLaren victory.
Leclerc did 3 best sectors on his pole lap.Ground Effect wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:33Well based on Leclerc's performance all weekend, I'd agree Ferrari were better here. I don't know if anyone has taken a close look at Leclerc's pole lap, it's possible he didn't string in his best possible lap as well.FittingMechanics wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:21How can you say that with confidence? Piastri would be on pole with his best sectors and in the race, no one was at the limit.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:15
I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.
I expect to see them very competitive in Canada again.
Without that pole, it is likely a clean McLaren victory.
AMuS is usually good.Ground Effect wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:29Does anybody know if AMuS is reliable, specifically Michael Schmidt? Just saw a post on the AMR thread that was speculating on Newey's next move. It stated that he's been contacted by Williams and McLaren, and Ferrari are no longer interested in his services.
EDIT: Of course also mentioned strong interest from AMR.
That still leaves a scenario were Piastri pushed tyres just a bit too hard in final S2 and lost some grip in S3 as a result. Achieving best theoretical lap and actually stringing 3 personal best sectors in one lap are two different things, these Pirellis are sadly so freaking sensitive and borderline unraceable...FittingMechanics wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:38With best sector times, Piastri would be P1 and Norris P3. Those are facts from the qualy.
To be honest, I didn’t see the advantage of Ferrari here. The teams were comparable. The racers themselves decided in qualifying. By sector, I didn’t see where McLaren lost to Ferrari. This is why I told you that Australia may not be indicative. But I have nothing against your cautious opinion. That was common sense on your part.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:15I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:53Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:48With how close things are looking now, I think the car is good enough to fight it out with both Ferrari and RedBull (on a good day). I would expect Silverstone to be the next race where they bring upgrades.
It makes sense, logistically, and it's also where rivals are rumored to bring pats as well. If they can do one better and bring them in Austria again, then that would be great. I have a feeling this next raft of updates will be extremely important for the remaining half of the season.
Papaya has reached a competitive plateau. There is no doubt that this will continue until the end of the season.
I expect to see them very competitive in Canada again.
True, it is possible that is true. Still it is so borderline that no one can say with confidence anyone had a margin here. No one pulled away, no one domimated.Vanja #66 wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:46That still leaves a scenario were Piastri pushed tyres just a bit too hard in final S2 and lost some grip in S3 as a result. Achieving best theoretical lap and actually stringing 3 personal best sectors in one lap are two different things, these Pirellis are sadly so freaking sensitive and borderline unraceable...FittingMechanics wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:38With best sector times, Piastri would be P1 and Norris P3. Those are facts from the qualy.
Sainz had more left in his tyres by the end, he was pushing Piastri and had much more time in him than the Mclarens. Norris had no answer either and was largely unable to pressure or even catch Sainz at this point, despite having been able to manage his tyres more than Sainz or Piastri. That doesn't mean it would be the same if there had been a pit. But in the circumstances the Ferrari had more pace.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:46To be honest, I didn’t see the advantage of Ferrari here. The teams were comparable. The racers themselves decided in qualifying. By sector, I didn’t see where McLaren lost to Ferrari. This is why I told you that Australia may not be indicative. But I have nothing against your cautious opinion. That was common sense on your part.Emag wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 19:15I think its fair to say Ferrari had a margin here. Car is good, but Ferrari is better on those sections. Doesnt mean McLaren can't beat them on more normal tracks. And RedBull doesn't stop being the benchmark just because they had a bad one here.LionsHeart wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 18:53
Did you really admit it? And you said that McLaren would be slow in the corners.
Papaya has reached a competitive plateau. There is no doubt that this will continue until the end of the season.
I expect to see them very competitive in Canada again.
The density in the top3 has increased. This is very good. Now the driver's role has increased. This is the best season so far with the new regulations.