Both drivers are race winners and podium finishers last year. Gasly is a fine driver for the team. I doubt Gasly wants to stay if he has other options though.yepp4 wrote: ↑26 May 2024, 23:14Famin was fuming, his last words were "we're going to cut into the flesh", the post race debrief must have been spicy... Anyway, he shouldn't have reacted about the incident live.
The extract in french (sorry):
I think he was not going to keep Gasly either so he may get rid of both drivers (inherited from Rossi) to build a new lineup he sees fit with his vision?
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argh wrong Carlos but you get the idea
Not like it would be a surprise to anyone that everyone at Alpine would be pissed at Ocon for the incident.franbatista123 wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 10:04Famin reacting to the incident live like that is just as bad if not worse than what Ocon did, it's terrible leadership not to handle those things indoors first. If the consequence that he talked about is a mid season swap, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot now that they're recovering a bit of performance and Ocon has been doing well minus this incident. Maybe it'll be just a fine and then now renewing the contract? If it's just that i don't think that changes anything, Ocon leaving Alpine has seemed kinda likely for a while.
I don’t think it’s bad. He gave them clear instructions. Ocon didn’t follow then. Famin gives him yellow card showing publicly, that he can be substituted. Next time it would be a red card.franbatista123 wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 10:04Famin reacting to the incident live like that is just as bad if not worse than what Ocon did, it's terrible leadership not to handle those things indoors first. If the consequence that he talked about is a mid season swap, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot now that they're recovering a bit of performance and Ocon has been doing well minus this incident. Maybe it'll be just a fine and then now renewing the contract? If it's just that i don't think that changes anything, Ocon leaving Alpine has seemed kinda likely for a while.
Foryster wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 11:36Honestly I dont think OCO and GASLY have any place to go.
RBR, Merc, Ferrari, Mclaren, Aston are blocked. (I dont believe in OCO in Merc)
VCARB? Dont think they will improve, rather the opposite. Gasly wont like going back there. Ocon and Tsunoda?
Haas? Williams? Sauber Are they any better place than Alpine? They are at Alpine level when Alpine is at the very bottom.
And in Alpine they are both French drivers in French factory team. At least from the perspective of fanbase, PR etc - its good.
So they should be interested in keeping the place. At least I think so.
on the opposite side, being Famil, I would stay with only one of them. Have one french leader, and then take someone young (like Doohan) and rebuild team around that.
https://media.alpinecars.com/2024-formu ... /?lang=eng"As a team we will review and manage the incident between both cars behind closed doors. We must avoid situations that have the potential to compromise the team.”
Famin could do a Jaguar and go for a Doohan/Martins cut-price all rookie lineup, like the Webber/Pizzonia cut-price lineup at Jaguar.
I agree this is a real option! I was joking about that a few posts ago but his father believes in Famin + he wants a multi-year deal (which mercedes doesn't want, and for some reason he doesn't want to go to Audi), he could be a bit cheaper than he is today, get a multiyear with performance exit clause if Alpine doesn't get better.JordanMugen wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 17:12However Ocon and Gasly are pretty good. Would Ocon or Gasly be swapped for Sainz on a two-year or three-year deal, assuming Sainz is excited about driving for the superb Alpine superteam?
This tbh. He clashed multiple times with Perez as his teammate; couldn’t get on with Alonso as his teammate (the guy who helped him win his only race); drove into Max while being lapped; now this… the guy is impossible, a very unpleasant person and not nearly quick enough to justify any of it.ringo wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 03:00Gasly is good. Alpine can keep him. Ocon is mentally damaged. He seems to have some chip on his shoulder and feels the need to stifle every moment a teammate will be ahead even if its a nonpoints paying position. Hes needs a shrink to sort his head out.
Kmag and Ocon are nut cases.
And definitely not a team player. Alpine neads a team w 2 drivers working together on expanding the cat, setups and strategy (same as Haas does now). If Ocon would be 11, he could slow everyone to give Gasly free pitstop and then who knows? Maybe more points were available. This is just an example.f1316 wrote: ↑28 May 2024, 02:32This tbh. He clashed multiple times with Perez as his teammate; couldn’t get on with Alonso as his teammate (the guy who helped him win his only race); drove into Max while being lapped; now this… the guy is impossible, a very unpleasant person and not nearly quick enough to justify any of it.ringo wrote: ↑27 May 2024, 03:00Gasly is good. Alpine can keep him. Ocon is mentally damaged. He seems to have some chip on his shoulder and feels the need to stifle every moment a teammate will be ahead even if its a nonpoints paying position. Hes needs a shrink to sort his head out.
Kmag and Ocon are nut cases.
It’ll be good riddance for the grid with him gone, as I don’t see him finding a home anywhere else.
