2024 Alpine F1 Team

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Jambier
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Big Tea wrote:
29 May 2024, 23:18
I thought he was given a "lifetime ban" from F1 ?
He was, and then he spends a lot of money to remove that ban and won at the end, for honour mainly.
So this ban is lifted since quite a long time actually.

But I still doubt to see him taking over again Enstone.
Being at some role yes but not team principal.

And once again, I don't know for Alpine how it is, but having already sold 24%, having some sponsors, and with budget cap, does it make sense at all to sell ???
Maybe the team is already costing basically nothing to Renault, maybe then can sell another 24% to an investor and stay Alpine.

If in the way they could remove BWT... [-o<

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Alpine have sacked veteran operations director Rob White.

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Another victim of the "it can't be my fault" or "your vision doesn't match the pace of my vision" management at Renault.

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More years passing, the more I see Abiteboul as a victim of Renault rather than the contrary.

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Ocon statement
“Much has been said in the aftermath of the Monaco Grand Prix. While I have received many messages of support, I have been deeply saddened by the amount of abuse and negativity that I have received online regarding my character, my driving and my career. Thanks to the support, hard work and sacrifices of many people, I’ve raced in over 140 grands prix so far since my debut in 2016. I have always been a tough competitor and, like most drivers, I’ve had my share of incidents. I have been lucky to race alongside talented and experienced team-mates, including race winners Daniel [Ricciardo], Checo [Perez] and Pierre and a double champion in Fernando [Alonso]. As team-mates, we would often start races very close to each other which in some cases meant some tough battles on track, and sometimes contact. Of course, I have made honest mistakes. We are not robots; we are athletes pushing ourselves to the limit every day to achieve our dream of winning races. F1 is a sport where emotions run high and passions run deep. I see and feel this every weekend at the track and on social media… the good and the bad. But the misinformed statements and gross distortions that I have seen online in recent days about my ability to work with a team have been inaccurate, hurtful and damaging. Since my first laps in motorsport, I have approached this sport with humility, professionalism and respect. These values were instilled in me from a very young age. While each driver chases individual glory, this will always be a team sport first and foremost. I have always followed the instructions I have been given and raced to achieve the maximum for and with my team.
Pulling the old "anon said mean things to me on social media" to draw focus from his own antics on track. Maybe the most common media tactic in today's world? Think so.

Put simply, he's not good enough to race his teammates like that, it's just not worth the risk for a struggling team.

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DGP123 wrote:
31 May 2024, 14:20
Alpine have sacked veteran operations director Rob White.
Maybe they're finally doing the right thing and cleaning house? God knows, whatever they've tried over the last 15 years, hasn't worker.

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Apparently Briatore is working on a proposal for Adrian Newey.

Would Newey be a good signing for Alpine-Renault? :D

Can Newey succeed where previous technical chiefs like Nick Chester and Pat Fry failed to deliver a winning car?

diffuser wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 17:29
Maybe they're finally doing the right thing and cleaning house?
I am not sure dismissing experienced Enstone staff like Permane and White is a good idea IMO. They have run a strong operation for a long time. Experience is very useful. Permane quickly found a place at VCARB, suggesting the high regard he is held in by the rest of the Formula One establishment.

diffuser wrote:
01 Jun 2024, 17:29
God knows, whatever they've tried over the last 15 years, hasn't worker
Surely the blame for not winning should go to engine design and chassis design staff and not to operational and manufacturing staff?!

Also blame to the senior Groupe Renault management above engine design staff, who failed to ensure Renault had a full roster of satisfied power unit customers to gather maximum data. If I'm not mistaken, Toro Rosso and Red Bull felt they were being supplied refurbished parts instead of new, and even Alpine driver Fernando Alpine felt the same -- contributing to a lack of customer satisfaction of those three parties. McLaren was not retained either, nor Williams gained.

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Jambier wrote:
30 May 2024, 15:52
If in the way they could remove BWT... [-o<
BWT is the team's major sponsor! Getting rid of them seems like a terrible idea unless I'm mistaken? :)

You can still paint the car in French Racing Blue regardless of having pink BWT sections on the livery. The choice to use predominantly plain carbon does not excel in terms of marketing IMO -- Aston's Martin predominantly Aston Racing Green livery (and green team uniforms) is much more effective for brand marketing IMO, IMO Alpine should replicate that approach.

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This seems like a never ending story...

I think the team's problems are more related to management than to the racing team itself. And the phenomenal mess in which they have been immersed for too long confirms my opinion.

Now Flavio arrives. I have always seen him as a businessman above all. So my first thought is that maybe there is a possible sale in the making.

The team's other big problem is Ocón's attitude.

If they suddenly fire Ocón I will think that they don't want to sell the team. If they keep him instead, I will confirm my opinion on the sale. As long as Ocón's contract is not also extremely complex and has some surprises included ...
Believe half of what you see and none of what you hear.

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Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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The end of Ocon's F1 career? I'm not sure I can see him return to any role with Mercedes (Reserve/Sim driver).

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... fklwU9TEqH

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jun 2024, 13:11
No surprise here but it means a new seat is avalaible.

And I think this seat is better than many think it is. Then 2026 is a big question mark for everyone

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This dumpsterfire keeps getting better! Briatore is back and Ocon is sacked!
Honda!

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If Alpine was not doing so bad I would have gambled on Yuki as being a replacement for Ocon.

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Why wouldn't the replacement be "Jack Doohan "?