2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Space-heat]

Formula Uno - https://formu1a.uno/it/ferrari-nessuna- ... sf-24-2-1/

Imola rear wing in Canada. Next update in Silverstone. No mention of rear wing updates in the between time for Spain and Austria. Beam wing versions noted for tailoring downforce in Canada. Imola package was 25% of upgrade budget.

They are going to need the 2 tenths from set-up that Fred mentioned if Ferrari and Charles are going to keep this "title race" going in the summer break. I suppose I shouldn't be greedy and just enjoy that there is some racing at the front of the field.

[SiLo]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... _the_rear/

Not sure what AMuS usually comes up with for their articles, but this one's full of completely wrong assumptions and seems completely devoid of input from any actual team personnel inputs. If the rear of the floor stalls at low ride heights, RB cars would have ended up off track every weekend since 2022 and had a big double DNF in every race.

Furthermore, Ferrari has a very different aero philosophy when it comes to diffuser kick and there is no aero mechanism to stall it since their kick is higher up and has very different geometry. The mythical triple-DRS was always a nonsense, was adequately debunked and I can't believe this high-speed floor-stall still comes up as an idea 3 years into this regulation cycle...

Having a complex rear suspension travel as a function of various parameters is one thing and it's clear Ferrari's been working a lot on this. But the floor stall as the overarching idea discredits the article completely...

Surely this might induce porpoising too?

[Luscion]

[Emag]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... _the_rear/

Not sure what AMuS usually comes up with for their articles, but this one's full of completely wrong assumptions and seems completely devoid of input from any actual team personnel inputs. If the rear of the floor stalls at low ride heights, RB cars would have ended up off track every weekend since 2022 and had a big double DNF in every race.

Furthermore, Ferrari has a very different aero philosophy when it comes to diffuser kick and there is no aero mechanism to stall it since their kick is higher up and has very different geometry. The mythical triple-DRS was always a nonsense, was adequately debunked and I can't believe this high-speed floor-stall still comes up as an idea 3 years into this regulation cycle...

Having a complex rear suspension travel as a function of various parameters is one thing and it's clear Ferrari's been working a lot on this. But the floor stall as the overarching idea discredits the article completely...

What was the original source of this rumor? I think even Wache said it's not as complicated as people were making it out to be and they were surprised people were not catching on what made their DRS powerful (but not so powerful on high-downforce tracks).

Edit: Also, can't the rear squatting on the straights mean the car is running on the softer side on the rear suspension? On the straights you get the highest speeds and the highest DF loads, so it makes sense for all cars to squat at least a little bit.

[Vanja #66]

Surely this might induce porpoising too?

Absolutely, Mercedes was bouncing as recently as Jeddah in some high-speed corners...

What was the original source of this rumor? I think even Wache said it's not as complicated as people were making it out to be and they were surprised people were not catching on what made their DRS powerful (but not so powerful on high-downforce tracks).

Edit: Also, can't the rear squatting on the straights mean the car is running on the softer side on the rear suspension? On the straights you get the highest speeds and the highest DF loads, so it makes sense for all cars to squat at least a little bit.

Not sure about the overall idea of diffuser stall on straights, it was somewhat widespread belief in early 2022 but it faded out by the end of the year. Then early last year Garry A threw the triple-DRS bomb out there and it still burns obviously...

[organic]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... _the_rear/

Not sure what AMuS usually comes up with for their articles, but this one's full of completely wrong assumptions and seems completely devoid of input from any actual team personnel inputs. If the rear of the floor stalls at low ride heights, RB cars would have ended up off track every weekend since 2022 and had a big double DNF in every race.

Furthermore, Ferrari has a very different aero philosophy when it comes to diffuser kick and there is no aero mechanism to stall it since their kick is higher up and has very different geometry. The mythical triple-DRS was always a nonsense, was adequately debunked and I can't believe this high-speed floor-stall still comes up as an idea 3 years into this regulation cycle...

Having a complex rear suspension travel as a function of various parameters is one thing and it's clear Ferrari's been working a lot on this. But the floor stall as the overarching idea discredits the article completely..

AMuS has been completely off the rails for the last 6-12 months. Noticed change in their reporting shortly after they changed their business model, now using paywalled articles . They've lost much of their credibility

[Vanja #66]

AMuS has been completely off the rails for the last 6-12 months. Noticed change in their reporting shortly after they changed their business model, now using paywalled articles . They've lost much of their credibility

Terrible...

[Giogio]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comme ... _the_rear/

Not sure what AMuS usually comes up with for their articles, but this one's full of completely wrong assumptions and seems completely devoid of input from any actual team personnel inputs. If the rear of the floor stalls at low ride heights, RB cars would have ended up off track every weekend since 2022 and had a big double DNF in every race.

Furthermore, Ferrari has a very different aero philosophy when it comes to diffuser kick and there is no aero mechanism to stall it since their kick is higher up and has very different geometry. The mythical triple-DRS was always a nonsense, was adequately debunked and I can't believe this high-speed floor-stall still comes up as an idea 3 years into this regulation cycle...

Having a complex rear suspension travel as a function of various parameters is one thing and it's clear Ferrari's been working a lot on this. But the floor stall as the overarching idea discredits the article completely...

What is the kick?

[jambuka]

Can we expect another double podium in Canada ?

[leblanc]

What was the original source of this rumor?

Almost certain it was Gary Anderson lol

[bluechris]

Can we expect another double podium in Canada ?

Oh well it seems there will be rain all the weekend so noone can predict anything if this is the case but Ferrari did rain tyres test before some days with the updated car so this is good for us.

[Sidewinder]

Can we expect another double podium in Canada ?

Given the weather forecast that seems unlikely. The car, albeit launch spec, hasn't gone well in the rain. I doubt much will change with the Evo, it's a shame because even last year in Montreal the SF-23 had race winning pace but rain in qualifying ruined things.

[JPower]

Can we expect another double podium in Canada ?

I don't know about expect, but they probably have a better chance than any other team to do it given Ferrari's typical performance in Montreal and the weather.

[ringo]

I am not convinced this car can race with Redbull at a normal track. Monaco was not a true representation of the car's progress. Imola, Ferrari could not hang, and Miami even worse. Canada may go the way of Redbull and McLaren.

[basti313]

Can we expect another double podium in Canada ?

I don't know about expect, but they probably have a better chance than any other team to do it given Ferrari's typical performance in Montreal and the weather.

Typical performance? Like P4 and P5 last year???

We had the curb riding discussion for too long I think...no one can predict how much it plays a role. They need to beat McLaren first...then speak about RedBull. And McLaren is definitely not bad on the curbs as well.