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Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him
Feel for him really. Could have done the last stint on the softs relatively easily. Other end of the stick we had GP asking Max what he thought of a new tyre vs trading race position and Max declined the stop. Obviously would have been a hard for Max, so was absolutely the right call to listen to the driver at that point. Sometimes the driver knows best
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Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him

He has to suck it up, they’re just not gonna disadvantage RUS.
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The Lewis fans aren't crazy. There is real evidence that Russel must outqualify and must have more points end of year. :lol:
They rather sacrifice a team win to keep George happy.
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Its worse when it turns out he had to argue them into allowing to take that first stop onto slicks as they were trying to tell him to stay out longer.

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Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him

The soft was a garbage race tyre. What would be the point of putting him on that for a 4-5 lap glory run when he was right behind his teammate who was also on new tyres. Was he going to use the best of the tyre to pass George? Makes no sense. The plan as constructed made more sense, George on mediums picking off the McLarens and then Lewis coming a few laps after picking up easy positions. George then gave Lewis a gift by attacking Piastri too aggressively, but Lewis decided to hand it right back by not defending hard against George.

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Cs98 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38
Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him

The soft was a garbage race tyre. What would be the point of putting him on that for a 4-5 lap glory run when he was right behind his teammate who was also on new tyres. Was he going to use the best of the tyre to pass George? Makes no sense. The plan as constructed made more sense, George on mediums picking off the McLarens and then Lewis coming a few laps after picking up easy positions. George then gave Lewis a gift by attacking Piastri too aggressively, but Lewis decided to hand it right back by not defending hard against George.
Lewis wanted either the softs or stay on the mediums because he left fast on them and didnt have any graining, he even complained the hards werent good towards the end of the race

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Lewis didn’t have mediums and the softs wouldn’t last till end… In his post race interview he is disappointed about his qualifying performance and not strategy.
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Cs98 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38
Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him

The soft was a garbage race tyre. What would be the point of putting him on that for a 4-5 lap glory run when he was right behind his teammate who was also on new tyres. Was he going to use the best of the tyre to pass George? Makes no sense. The plan as constructed made more sense, George on mediums picking off the McLarens and then Lewis coming a few laps after picking up easy positions. George then gave Lewis a gift by attacking Piastri too aggressively, but Lewis decided to hand it right back by not defending hard against George.
The mediums easily did 25 laps. There's no reason to think that the softs can't do half that on low fuel.

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Silent Storm wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:44
Lewis didn’t have mediums and the softs wouldn’t last till end… In his post race interview he is disappointed about his qualifying performance and not strategy.
He's frustrated with himself but he also wanted to stay on the mediums he was on if they werent going to put him on the softs

this is right before Russell overtakes him for third of him complaining about the tires


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Lewis can moan all he wants. This doesn't happen if he doesn't flop in qualifying. He who sorts out his qualifying reaps the rewards on Sunday.

Russell earned the preferential strategy by virtue of being the lead car.

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mkay wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:45
The mediums easily did 25 laps. There's no reason to think that the softs can't do half that on low fuel.
I'd think so too, but even Bottas in 13th didn't take new softs, although he had nothing to lose at all. So looks like teams were really cautious about those tires.

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Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:41
Cs98 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38
Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:21
Lewis shaking his head and not saying a word after the race and just sits in the car, seems pretty pissed they didnt listen to him about the softs, cant blame him

The soft was a garbage race tyre. What would be the point of putting him on that for a 4-5 lap glory run when he was right behind his teammate who was also on new tyres. Was he going to use the best of the tyre to pass George? Makes no sense. The plan as constructed made more sense, George on mediums picking off the McLarens and then Lewis coming a few laps after picking up easy positions. George then gave Lewis a gift by attacking Piastri too aggressively, but Lewis decided to hand it right back by not defending hard against George.
Lewis wanted either the softs or to go back on the mediums because he left fast on them and didnt have any graining, he even complained they werent good towards to end
He didn't have any new mediums and I already explained to you why it makes no sense to put him on the soft tyre when he is right behind his teammate on new mediums. Lewis isn't racing in isolation, you can't just consider his perspective and not the race situation.

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So did RUS actually make contact with PIA? Why’s that being investigated?
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Hamilton was shafted again by the team. It’s so obvious. They just want to keep Russell happy. They don’t listen to Lewis now and he knows and is why is peed off I don’t blame him. All he can do now is qualify better because when it comes to race day he is the better driver always up there even if George starts well ahead of him by end of race he’s with him. All that Lewis has given this team the way he’s treated this year is shocking

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Cs98 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:49
Luscion wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:41
Cs98 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:38

The soft was a garbage race tyre. What would be the point of putting him on that for a 4-5 lap glory run when he was right behind his teammate who was also on new tyres. Was he going to use the best of the tyre to pass George? Makes no sense. The plan as constructed made more sense, George on mediums picking off the McLarens and then Lewis coming a few laps after picking up easy positions. George then gave Lewis a gift by attacking Piastri too aggressively, but Lewis decided to hand it right back by not defending hard against George.
Lewis wanted either the softs or to go back on the mediums because he left fast on them and didnt have any graining, he even complained they werent good towards to end
He didn't have any new mediums and I already explained to you why it makes no sense to put him on the soft tyre when he is right behind his teammate on new mediums. Lewis isn't racing in isolation, you can't just consider his perspective and not the race situation.
He wanted S or to remain on M as I understand it
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