2024 Aston Martin | Aramco F1 Team

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Alonso was able to hold off Hamilton but Aston is not able to do so in pitstops and development. Good result but still lots to improve

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-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:54
MichaelxScarn wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:17
-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:06
ALO is slow, I do think STR has better race pace.
😄😄😄
STR was gaining until the 2nd SC. Something is actually not right for ALO. Normally he is way quicker than STR.
Alonso was clearly managing tyres. Not gonna lie, pace was terrible though, but Lance wasn’t anywhere close after the second SC?!

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-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:54
MichaelxScarn wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:17
-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:06
ALO is slow, I do think STR has better race pace.
😄😄😄
STR was gaining until the 2nd SC. Something is actually not right for ALO. Normally he is way quicker than STR.
He was just managing ffs. After the last SC he showed his true pace just like in the first stint before the SC

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Aston race pace very slow at every situation. Doesn't matter is wet,is dry is cold or warm. Is aero or mechanical grip.Also Doesn't matter is inter,hard or soft. Was painful to watch how much faster the Redbull, McLaren and Mercedes of course Ferrari is there except today. Was more than 20 sec Alonso behind the Mercedes, if this a clean race then rhe top 10 could be impossible. Very disappointed again,

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OnEcRiTiCaL wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:03
Aston race pace very slow at every situation. Doesn't matter is wet,is dry is cold or warm. Is aero or mechanical grip.Also Doesn't matter is inter,hard or soft. Was painful to watch how much faster the Redbull, McLaren and Mercedes of course Ferrari is there except today. Was more than 20 sec Alonso behind the Mercedes, if this a clean race then rhe top 10 could be impossible. Very disappointed again,
It looks like mechanical grip seems to be the issue but also rear end stability. The front end seems to be fixed with the new wing and the car seems balanced but rear end is still not good. I heard there is a good fix coming in spain, whether it works is another thing.
Halo not as bad as we thought

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Ashwinv16 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:06
It looks like mechanical grip seems to be the issue but also rear end stability. The front end seems to be fixed with the new wing and the car seems balanced but rear end is still not good. I heard there is a good fix coming in spain, whether it works is another thing.
"whether it works" is definitely the most difficult test :D , lets see if it does for once.

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it looked like our rear wing was less loaded compared to the other teams ?!

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diffuser wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:55
Sherrinford wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:52
FNTC wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:49
4th quickest team though. Not ideal but better than the last few races.
Ferrari had an atypical weekend, you can't consider it. Good points for this race, but I expected more personally. Still the same problems as at the beginning of the year, not a good thing
AMR still has too much oversteer. Alonso is creeping around without confidence in the rear of the car.
Considering that Alonso drives understeer, the car is not at all ideal for him. I agree with you, but I can't understand what the problems are in the back, Mercedes is ok with that

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Sherrinford wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 23:37
diffuser wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:55
Sherrinford wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:52


Ferrari had an atypical weekend, you can't consider it. Good points for this race, but I expected more personally. Still the same problems as at the beginning of the year, not a good thing
AMR still has too much oversteer. Alonso is creeping around without confidence in the rear of the car.
Considering that Alonso drives understeer, the car is not at all ideal for him. I agree with you, but I can't understand what the problems are in the back, Mercedes is ok with that
Lack of DF.

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SSJ4 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:16
it looked like our rear wing was less loaded compared to the other teams ?!
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... -race.html

so we did have low load compared to the rest. makes sense why race pace was pretty poor.
i still dont understand the obsession with wanting to be quick in a straightline. especially when you knew it was gonna rain. surely just run bigger wings like mclaren used to do

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SSJ4 wrote:
10 Jun 2024, 00:26
SSJ4 wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 22:16
it looked like our rear wing was less loaded compared to the other teams ?!
https://www.funoanalisitecnica.com/2024 ... -race.html

so we did have low load compared to the rest. makes sense why race pace was pretty poor.
i still dont understand the obsession with wanting to be quick in a straightline. especially when you knew it was gonna rain. surely just run bigger wings like mclaren used to do
How do we know those load values in that article are right? His race pace predictions were off.

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MichaelxScarn wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:58
-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:54
MichaelxScarn wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:17

😄😄😄
STR was gaining until the 2nd SC. Something is actually not right for ALO. Normally he is way quicker than STR.
Alonso was clearly managing tyres. Not gonna lie, pace was terrible though, but Lance wasn’t anywhere close after the second SC?!
Pace was really good. Just not more than 6th. They were alot faster than 8th and down.

Don't think it had anything to do with saving tires. Think it's just Alonso doesn't have faith in the car to not oversteer him into a wall.

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-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:54
MichaelxScarn wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:17
-wkst- wrote:
09 Jun 2024, 21:06
ALO is slow, I do think STR has better race pace.
😄😄😄
STR was gaining until the 2nd SC. Something is actually not right for ALO. Normally he is way quicker than STR.
hard to know what alonsos true pace is when hes not being pressured. he spends so much time managing tires. it happens every race when theres really no chance to catch the cars ahead, he lets the cars behind get to almost DRS before he picks it up. the only pressure he had today was hamilton. he gapped stroll after the final safety car

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Aston does seem to have solved their drag issue they had last year, theyve been competitive in speed traps for quite a while now.

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Good to see that, hope they solve for DF and stability in slow corners too soon.
KimiRai wrote:
10 Jun 2024, 05:43
Aston does seem to have solved their drag issue they had last year, theyve been competitive in speed traps for quite a while now.

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