2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Wouter]

another bombshell

Such bombshell, much wow

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Actually it is. It shows the tension that still exists between Verstappen and Horner.

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No, the tension between Verstappen, Marko, Mintzlaff on one side and Horner and Yoovidhya on the other side.
See my previous post.

[Sieper]

Max is not only loyal while they are winning, he worked with the team towards winning. Also when prospect seemed dire.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Max is not only loyal while they are winning, he worked with the team towards winning. Also when prospect seemed dire.

You mean when Max had 0 championships and was loyal? Mercedes was the dominant team and they were already winning everything, so the seats were full with Hamilton & wingman. Max had no choice but to be "loyal", where should Max have even gone? The status comparison then and now is completely different. Nowadays, every team wants him.

Drivers are always talking about loyalty, but behind the scenes, they are discussing with other teams, and then surprises like Hamilton to Ferrari happens.

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Issues with bumps again. Great

[AR3-GP]

Red Bull saving hard tires...

[Wouter]

Issues with bumps again. Great

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Really? Are you sure?

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Issues with bumps again. Great

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Really? Are you sure?

Came out of the box

Max: "This is not good."

He is told to box this lap.

Max: "The bumps are really bad."

Sounds like their setup choices are being constrained by the bumps

[AR3-GP]

Max said on radio "This is not good".

[FittingMechanics]

Issues with bumps again. Great

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Really? Are you sure?

Came out of the box

Max: "This is not good."

He is told to box this lap.

Max: "The bumps are really bad."

Sounds like their setup choices are being constrained by the bumps

McLaren team stream mentioned that there is a big bump on straight between T1 and T3 (where MotoGP has a chicane).

[Cassius]

Hamilton would have never left for Ferrari if Mercedes were the dominant team. You are "loyal" as long as you benefit from it. And this applies to almost every driver. An F1 driver is more selfish than a 3-year-old child, and that's the key to success.

Of course everyone is loyal as long as the performance is there. My point is Max was fully aware of the risks of the engine project. He is invested in it and is loyal to be able to see how they do. Hence he will stay for 2026 as well. If they are very much behind and there is no clear timeline/path to closing the gap to the other engine manufacturers, only then he will reconsider.

Given the loyalty and the statements Max has given on this project I don't believe he will just leave them before the introduction in 2026 based on rumours they might be a bit behind.

Max is still winning but already concerned about the fact that they have lost dominant position. I don't think this guy is going to watch others collecting wins if he has an offer from a winning team on the table. Of course he is not leaving before 2026 because no one can guarantee the best car.

For the same reason he is not leaving before 2026, he is not leaving for 2026. Performance diff unknown and wants to see what the team can do. Exactly my point.

[AR3-GP]

lol. On to Silverstone

[AR3-GP]

Also, as expected, the entry stability due to kerbs is poor. This is important into T1, T6, and T10 among other places.

[K1Plus]

In chase of absolute performance, the Red Bull lost its wide setup window it had last year and it's much stiffer than it was if we see this season as a whole despite Max winning a lot, he's not as nearly as dominant as last year. I fully expect McLaren to win at least a few more, Ferrari too. And Mercedes will join that winners pack.

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What has happened to this team

[Sergej]

He's already out of the box, maybe some glitch in the electronics.