2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Is there a clip of the whole incident?
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:22
What is there to protest? He is out.
Well, for the protest to be heard the team will have to submit some evidence that wasnt available at the time.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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AR3-GP wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:22
What is there to protest? He is out.
Hard to believe but McLaren most likely have access to more images and data then you and I do. They obviously have evidence that makes protesting the decision worthwhile

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Was it the "Domenicali defense" for Ferrari at Monza, that observed "his shadow was in track limits" :D

One of my favourite explanation, if I recall that correctly.

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That's not top down though
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Its clearly over, you can see the blue at the front wheel.

Yes, the back is wider than the front, but note the rotation of the car.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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I think it's the right thing to do to protest if they believe there's a chance to overturn.

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Agreed. Also I think the inside of the tyre is clearly over, not the shoulder. And if this is the angle they are using to make these decisions then it should be scrubbed it's awful. Put cameras in the right places, it's a multi billion pound sport for Christ's sake.
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I dont think anything will change. F1 is a farse as they are judging with clear bias towards teams. If you are Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes you can get away with whatever you like to do. You can even bang your opponent out of frustration or drive unnecessarily slow or go over the budget limit and get away with it. But god forbid if you drive a Mclaren. That papaya colour drives them crazy.
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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:50
I dont think anything will change. F1 is a farse as they are judging with clear bias towards teams. If you are Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes you can get away with whatever you like to do. You can even bang your opponent out of frustration or drive unnecessarily slow and get away with it. But god forbid if you drive a Mclaren. That papaya colour drives them crazy.
Pretty sure all of the lap times deleted for track limits were done by AI

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Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:52
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:50
I dont think anything will change. F1 is a farse as they are judging with clear bias towards teams. If you are Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes you can get away with whatever you like to do. You can even bang your opponent out of frustration or drive unnecessarily slow and get away with it. But god forbid if you drive a Mclaren. That papaya colour drives them crazy.
All of the lap times deleted for track limits were done by AI
Then clearly they should have people checking them. AI can only decide on code but the human factor can see things AI cant.

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:53
Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:52
Darth-Piekus wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:50
I dont think anything will change. F1 is a farse as they are judging with clear bias towards teams. If you are Ferrari, Red Bull or Mercedes you can get away with whatever you like to do. You can even bang your opponent out of frustration or drive unnecessarily slow and get away with it. But god forbid if you drive a Mclaren. That papaya colour drives them crazy.
All of the lap times deleted for track limits were done by AI
Then clearly they should have people checking them. AI can only decide on code but the human factor can see things AI cant.
The blue line is intended to divide the white line demarcating track limits from the exit kerb in order to create a more striking visual difference. Those corners of concern have also been loaded up with cameras.

Beginning in Abu Dhabi last year, the FIA has been training artificial intelligence to review images and video clips of cars potentially exceeding track limits in these critical areas. AI should then be able to determine whether or not a vehicle actually exceeded track limits.

As a result, stewards and race directors should only have to worry about the infractions that are questionable or too close for AI to call.

https://www.planetf1.com/news/explained ... ack-limits

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Luscion wrote:
29 Jun 2024, 19:21
What got his lap time deleted

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRQHIUEWAAE ... me=900x900
I dont know why people in this thread are doubting or why the protest fiasco by Mclaren is happening, if the excuse is "image is not conclusive". There might be other reasons why McLaren is protesting.

Because clearly, any human with IQ around 100 or any basic AI bot with image processing ability, should be able to spot that track limit is clearly breached.

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