I don't think this was officially stated.
slower than mclaren at the end ? mclaren didnt close that 7 second gap on merit they did it by exploiting redbull corkup in the pitbox.Max last stint was on used tires .drs and illegal track limits gave norris an unfair advantage.if the steward were quick to penalise Norris on his ontrack infringement then Max would have driven differently and an incident would have been avoided.they is a little machinasation on their part for the sake of showvenkyhere wrote: ↑02 Jul 2024, 10:43CjC wrote: ↑02 Jul 2024, 10:12I feel Red Bull have an advantage in high speed corners and top end straight line speed- a great combo for Silverstone.
Marko has confirmed car updates for Silverstone as well as a previous member had posted.
But I agree, the deg could bring Mclaren back into play towards the end of the stints
But for out right speed I think it’ll be all Red Bull.
There is a pattern of 'fastest in the early part of the race, then even-out in the middle, then become slower than Mclaren - all due to the car not keeping tyres optimum as fuel load comes down' , and it has been consistently that way, on a variety of tracks of late (ever since Japan, I think).
This could be a fundamental baked-in problem of the RB20 and can't be 'solved once and for all' within the season, I think :
venkyhere wrote: ↑01 Jul 2024, 09:17Deg was indeed bad for RB20 yesterday. What confuses me even more is the explanation for the 'setup-change' between Sprint and Quali, made by Marko+Horner - "it was for race pace".
The notion that it's the aero-imposed stiff suspension that causes accelerated tyre wear, seems more likely, with every passing race.
Full tank fuel + aero load => the total pre-loading in the springs is keeping the tyres happy when subjected to varying impacts from the road - bumps, dips and kerbs. The moment fuel load is removed, the total preloading becomes lesser and springs are way too stiff to keep the tyres happy in relation to the varying impacts from the load => glaringly evident in slow speed ckts like Monaco, the chicane kerbs in Imola/Canada etc - tyres aren't pressed back enough into the ground during rebound, even resulting in actual bouncing ("jumping like kangaroo"). This doesn't affect in high speed corners even if kerb riding is involved, as the pre-loading is back to necessary levels thanks to the aero-press at high speed.
And because the stiffness of suspension is imposed due to floor design and ride -height windows, this might not be something that can be solved by 'development' - this very likely is a baked-in limitation coming from the RB19-->RB20 design change.
Just a theory.
Do Red Bull - Honda fans even want that though?
It would seem not!
Its a proper drivers/champions mentality though. Max is there to drive the car, and he is there to win. 2nd place isnt good enough in the eyes of Max.JordanMugen wrote: ↑02 Jul 2024, 21:59It would seem not!
It seems Max races with "if you're not first, you're last", instead of waving Norris past and collecting points for a solid P2 (to be fair Norris could have similarly consolidated a solid P2).
All jolly amusing!
It's not something you learn, you have it or you don't. Norris at the moment is destroyed psychologically, you could see the Barcelona race result, in which he had a very good car advantage, was very heavy for him.