2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Darth-Piekus wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 18:17
That's the thing though. Red Bull didnt hesitate to use Perez to drive dirty against Hamilton so Max would close the gap in Abu Dhabi 2021. The worst was that turn where he sent Hamilton to the wall and took it as slow as possible. If Red Bull doesnt have any morals to use any tactics to win then why should Mclaren respect a team that doesnt respect F1.
Perez should have been shown the black flag for that, this was one of the most unsportsmanlike things I have seen in F1 in the last few decades.

And in general the FIA should remember that they have that thing called black flag, I can think of a number of instances it should have been shown in the last few years, it's a legitimate way of discipline and the one on the receiving end of it will not do the same mistake again.

Meaningless time penalties that drop you at best a couple of places and cost a few points, and fines in the tens or hundreds( super rarely) of thousands of euros to multi-billion corporations are a joke at best.

If we are honest, for years the sport is not govern on the track, there are inconsistencies, bad calls (how you can do that with tens of cameras and sensors it's beyond me), lagging calls, revolving door stewards and much more. This is the most urgent matter to be handled and it ruins the sport to it's core ,for example not following your own black and white written rulebook in 2021 safety-car debacle with 0 consequences, or giving track limits penalty while losing time and gaining no advantage, really??

Stewards must be ex-drivers, have the same X number of races they govern every year, where they are familiar with every cm of the track. It really feels like it's all a guess game in the stewards room.

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Indeed. For example why in the GP of Zadvoort not having a full team of former drivers from the 70s and 80s that know every single part of the circuit? In most of the old GPs they could do that.

If you think of it Michael Schumacher was disqualified from the championship in 1997 for just one collision on purpose. It would be totally fair if Max gained a 2 race ban for his actions to cool off, see Norris reducing the difference by 50 points and then come back hopefully with a better attitude. Then Red Bull will also understand that there are limits and rules. As long as they tolerate this behavior it will happen again and again.

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Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
Let Max learn this. Lando will not turn away.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
I think Max did too in a video after he sat down and watched the replays I saw. Don't think he quite saw it as he was completely at fault for it all but think he did seem to have a far softer view compared to straight after the race.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
He tried. For almost 10 laps back to back, that's 30 DRS tows. He did show patience.

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Silverstone is forecasting British weather. Rain all weekend. Temperatures 17-18 Celsius. Highest chance on Friday, lowest on Saturday.

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chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.

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It's kinda funny when I see people saying "Lando needs to learn". Why would he need to learn? It's the same for VER. Next time if they crash, maybe VER will retire and Lando will win. Max needs to learn just as much and to reconsider his crash prone approach when wheel to wheel racing.
Just hold your ground, if Max wants to crash, so be it.

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FittingMechanics wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 09:53
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48
FittingMechanics wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:32
Lando cooling things down a bit: https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/norri ... /10630905/

But he says he wouldn't change what he did. Good call. Hold your ground.
Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.
Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster ;)
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 10:08
Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster ;)
Coming to a McLaren thread saying Lando needs to learn to let Verstappen push him off track is what? A good post? Please.

Yes, Lando could have gone wide, maybe get another penalty for off track and accept being second, but he chose not to. And that is a good decision. Verstappen does not have right to push people off track and if he wants to do it, so be it. We will see how Red Bull like that when other teams start to outscore Red Bull because their only real point scorer gets damage due to being uncompromising.

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 10:08
FittingMechanics wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 09:53
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48


Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.
Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster ;)
Any proof? I read his comments after the Sprint race. And I didn't see Lando upset. I even double-checked it now to make sure. Or are your words based on Christian Horner's words? But these are just his thoughts, not Lando's words. To a certain extent, Lando was unhappy with how he drove, but he was not upset. So yes, you are not objective.

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chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 10:08
FittingMechanics wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 09:53
chrisc90 wrote:
03 Jul 2024, 23:48


Lando will need to learn that the race isnt made in one lap or corner.

Sometimes the old saying..... "patience is a virtue" is a key point to take from things.
I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.
Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster ;)
The sprint is irrelevant to the whole situation. He admitted he made a mistake to open the door on the inside, but he wasn't upset at all. Actually Lando was quite sick from thursday-saturday. He was a little better for the race, but he was still sick. That's why his face was so gloomy and fatigued after sprint quali.

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Emag wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 10:44
chrisc90 wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 10:08
FittingMechanics wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 09:53


I'm sure Verstappen would not have shown as much patience as Lando did.

You will need to learn that you are not objective when it comes to Verstappen. Best not to continue to bring up things on McLaren thread.
Lando was still upset about losing the sprint to Max. Lando said it. He always seems to take things too much to heart when he didn’t win.

We will see what happens over the next half of the season if they all are still battling at the front.

Ps:- attack the post, not the poster ;)
The sprint is irrelevant to the whole situation. He admitted he made a mistake to open the door on the inside, but he wasn't upset at all. Actually Lando was quite sick from thursday-saturday. He was a little better for the race, but he was still sick. That's why his face was so gloomy and fatigued after sprint quali.
Emag, this man's words are based on Christian's words after Sunday's race, who said that Lando was upset after the sprint. That's all. He has nothing to say, he has zero arguments.