2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

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Leclerc reiterated in an interview with Formu1a.uno what other sources have said about the two cars doing more tests this weekend. However, if it rains they may have to delay it until the next race.

He also said they're expecting 2-3 tenths once they find the correct setup. The comparison they did last week, where him and Sainz ran different race setups, provided a direction for them to work in.

https://formu1a.uno/it/leclerc-grosse-d ... ato-utile/

(Most recent rain forecast is 40% for Friday, 40% for qualifying, and 60% for the race according to Ian Fergusson)

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JPower wrote:
02 Jul 2024, 15:40
deadhead wrote:
02 Jul 2024, 14:17
I’ve noticed that SAI is much closer to LEC when the car doesn’t work properly. It was the same last year until Japan.
The car was working properly before Spain and he was still very close.

Just depends on which driver's window the car favors at the moment. Leclerc does have a wider window of operation, and its clear the 2023 car moved more in his direction towards the end of that season.
Maybe in quali but he has been lagging on race pace for the past 5 races or so and now they are back to almost identical pace.

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deadhead wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 18:06
JPower wrote:
02 Jul 2024, 15:40
deadhead wrote:
02 Jul 2024, 14:17
I’ve noticed that SAI is much closer to LEC when the car doesn’t work properly. It was the same last year until Japan.
The car was working properly before Spain and he was still very close.

Just depends on which driver's window the car favors at the moment. Leclerc does have a wider window of operation, and its clear the 2023 car moved more in his direction towards the end of that season.
Maybe in quali but he has been lagging on race pace for the past 5 races or so and now they are back to almost identical pace.
Assuming Spain is when the car started working "incorrectly", from AUS to EMI they finished 5 races against each other(excluding Canada and Monaco) and the median race pace delta is 0.08%/average delta is .03% to Leclerc using pace calcs from F1Pace. In all races finished up to Spain(excl. BAH/SAU/CAN/MON) median is .11%/average is .045%. Closer if Bahrain is counted.

I think the differences between the two are more driver/car window related than the car "working properly". The SF90 and SF1000 didn't work properly at various points but Leclerc managed them just fine.
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Last week Ferrari had less drag than most, now they'll have more.

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Sevach wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 21:14
Last week Ferrari had less drag than most, now they'll have more.
It’s weird how they’ve often been an outlier all season but sometimes have bigger wing than others, sometimes smaller. I could understand if they were always one thing or the other but weird how they fluctuate between the two. You would think they would want less downforce at the moment if bouncing is their issue.

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f1316 wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 01:33
Sevach wrote:
04 Jul 2024, 21:14
Last week Ferrari had less drag than most, now they'll have more.
It’s weird how they’ve often been an outlier all season but sometimes have bigger wing than others, sometimes smaller. I could understand if they were always one thing or the other but weird how they fluctuate between the two. You would think they would want less downforce at the moment if bouncing is their issue.
Most likely chasing balance.

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Yeah also to be noted simulator is quite new after 2022 SW upgrade. So its possible its not fully dialled well. But if u have incorrect bouncing assumptions in first place and data you put in is almost worthless. Hence why u need to do research and recalibration of such thing. And that takes time and resources and man hours.
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No updates for Ferrari, meaning the last 20% of Barcelona package to arrive at Silverstone will make things worse?
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yooogurt wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:44
No updates for Ferrari, meaning the last 20% of Barcelona package to arrive at Silverstone will make things worse?
No point in just bringing upgrades when they have bigger fish to fry. I would rather have them resolve the current bouncing issue and find a way to make the drivers comfortable/confident. That is the biggest possible upgrade they can have.

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yooogurt wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 11:44
No updates for Ferrari, meaning the last 20% of Barcelona package to arrive at Silverstone will make things worse?
They might be trying to understand what they have before adding new parts. If they add something new it could make the data they have gathered to date useless. Could also be saving budget they might need to revise the floor while keeping funds for later upgrades.

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Is it true that one driver in FP1 will be on the old underfloor package etc?

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bluechris wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:22
Is it true that one driver in FP1 will be on the old underfloor package etc?
Where did you read this?

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Xyz22 wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:25
bluechris wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:22
Is it true that one driver in FP1 will be on the old underfloor package etc?
Where did you read this?
https://x.com/JunaidSamodien_/status/18 ... 3655929095

There is a comparison test planned, but not sure what that really means

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Xyz22 wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:25
bluechris wrote:
05 Jul 2024, 12:22
Is it true that one driver in FP1 will be on the old underfloor package etc?
Where did you read this?
Ferrari to split F1 Silverstone packages in chase for upgrade answers
https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ferra ... /10631501/