2024 Scuderia Ferrari F1 Team

[Jdn1327]

This is going to be the story for ferrari thus entire year. The suspension philosophy they took made their development window too small and they're suffering now. It should be a lot better next year when they have a more traditional suspension layout.

[yooogurt]

This is going to be the story for ferrari thus entire year. The suspension philosophy they took made their development window too small and they're suffering now. It should be a lot better next year when they have a more traditional suspension layout.

I think its buged cap problem, if the team is this far along in its development like Ferrari, there not enough money for everything, so you have to make compromises.

[f1316]

Yeah, the issue here for me is not so much the result or even the performance (albeit, 0.7 is a lot, especially when you consider that Max might have been even quicker without damage) but that they don’t appear to know what they’re doing. What was promising earlier in the season was what appeared to be a pragmatic, sensible approach with a clear direction. Now they’re not performing but don’t even seem to understand why or how to fix it. I hope that this weekend helps them determine a path forward and hopefully there is some kind of interim solution that doesn’t require a whole new suspension (in which case we can kiss goodbye to the rest of the season).

[Vanja #66]

Unfortunately, Sainz lost at least 0.5s during his final Q3 lap. He was not the only one who failed to improve, but there are places where he improved compared to 1st Q3 lap so it's not a case of temperature going away and no more peak grip from tyres. There was a 26.2 lap in the car definitely, either P4 or P5 was on the table - matching Verstappen and Piastri.



Leclerc drove his best lap in Q2 today and improved everywhere compared to any other lap. Testing with Barcelona spec yesterday and the wet FP3 with Imola package today left him completely unaware of the limits of the car and it showed.

When it rains, it pours...

[Xyz22]

Unfortunately, Sainz lost at least 0.5s during his final Q3 lap. He was not the only one who failed to improve, but there are places where he improved compared to 1st Q3 lap so it's not a case of temperature going away and no more peak grip from tyres. There was a 26.2 lap in the car definitely, either P4 or P5 was on the table - matching Verstappen and Piastri.

https://i.ibb.co/4TWfR8J/sai-gbr-q-24.jpg

Leclerc drove his best lap in Q2 today and improved everywhere compared to any other lap. Testing with Barcelona spec yesterday and the wet FP3 with Imola package today left him completely unaware of the limits of the car and it showed.

When it rains, it pours...

It's the same old story Vanja, when they start asking a bit more from the car mistakes happen which result in more time losses.

[Vanja #66]

It's the same old story Vanja, when they start asking a bit more from the car mistakes happen which result in more time losses.

Neither launch nor Imola spec behaved like this, excellent driveability is the core trait of both packages

[Xyz22]

It's the same old story Vanja, when they start asking a bit more from the car mistakes happen which result in more time losses.

Neither launch nor Imola spec behaved like this, excellent driveability is the core trait of both packages

Not in qualifying, where we have seen almost no “perfect” q3 laps.

[SoulPancake13]

Vasseur blaming the drivers after qualy when both of them said they have 0 confidence or pace in the car strikes me as incredibly out of touch. Last season the team was open and honest about the issues with the car and what they were doing to fix it, now you get Vasseur saying they didn't go backwards, give me a break, we all see what is going on.

[IntrinsicVoid]

Vasseur blaming the drivers after qualy when both of them said they have 0 confidence or pace in the car strikes me as incredibly out of touch. Last season the team was open and honest about the issues with the car and what they were doing to fix it, now you get Vasseur saying they didn't go backwards, give me a break, we all see what is going on.

Honestly I didn't expect that from Vassuer...
Can you share the full statement btw?

[Vanja #66]

Not in qualifying, where we have seen almost no “perfect” q3 laps.

We already established long ago that peak performance was never on RB level and we know there is a tyre warm ip issue. Leclerc had issues with Q3 warm up in first 4 races, other than that it was easy to reach the limit of the car and keep it there. They both even managed to do it in Barcelona - most likely due to smooth track, avoiding too much experimentation with setup and only raising the car to solve bouncing

[SoulPancake13]

Vasseur blaming the drivers after qualy when both of them said they have 0 confidence or pace in the car strikes me as incredibly out of touch. Last season the team was open and honest about the issues with the car and what they were doing to fix it, now you get Vasseur saying they didn't go backwards, give me a break, we all see what is going on.

Honestly I didn't expect that from Vassuer...
Can you share the full statement btw?

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-il-bounc ... ietro-qui/

To hear the Ferrari Team Principal, the main cause of such a disappointing result is not to be sought in the pure performance of the car, but in the execution of the Qualifying. Charles Leclerc's mistake in Q2, coming out of Chapel, cost about 3 tenths according to Vasseur. “In Q2 there were 9 cars in 1 tenth, and we weren't perfect. If you don't put it all together, you pay 2-3 tenths that are expensive," the Frenchman explained. The Monegasque's mistake was therefore fatal for his elimination, while in Q3 Carlos Sainz paid for the last available lap. “There was a bit of chaos in the pitlane, he struggled with Alonso in the prep lap, he started well but then in turn 4 he missed the rope point and ended there.” Two mistakes of the drivers that were therefore fatal, but Vassuer put under judgment all the operation of the team, which was not perfect. “We need to be able to have a clean and perfect Qualification session.”

[Emag]

Vasseur blaming the drivers after qualy when both of them said they have 0 confidence or pace in the car strikes me as incredibly out of touch. Last season the team was open and honest about the issues with the car and what they were doing to fix it, now you get Vasseur saying they didn't go backwards, give me a break, we all see what is going on.

Honestly I didn't expect that from Vassuer...
Can you share the full statement btw?

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-il-bounc ... ietro-qui/

To hear the Ferrari Team Principal, the main cause of such a disappointing result is not to be sought in the pure performance of the car, but in the execution of the Qualifying. Charles Leclerc's mistake in Q2, coming out of Chapel, cost about 3 tenths according to Vasseur. “In Q2 there were 9 cars in 1 tenth, and we weren't perfect. If you don't put it all together, you pay 2-3 tenths that are expensive," the Frenchman explained. The Monegasque's mistake was therefore fatal for his elimination, while in Q3 Carlos Sainz paid for the last available lap. “There was a bit of chaos in the pitlane, he struggled with Alonso in the prep lap, he started well but then in turn 4 he missed the rope point and ended there.” Two mistakes of the drivers that were therefore fatal, but Vassuer put under judgment all the operation of the team, which was not perfect. “We need to be able to have a clean and perfect Qualification session.”

I mean, okay that's fair, but how about giving the drivers a car that can give them some margin for error like RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren had.

[SoulPancake13]

Honestly I didn't expect that from Vassuer...
Can you share the full statement btw?

https://formu1a.uno/it/vasseur-il-bounc ... ietro-qui/

To hear the Ferrari Team Principal, the main cause of such a disappointing result is not to be sought in the pure performance of the car, but in the execution of the Qualifying. Charles Leclerc's mistake in Q2, coming out of Chapel, cost about 3 tenths according to Vasseur. “In Q2 there were 9 cars in 1 tenth, and we weren't perfect. If you don't put it all together, you pay 2-3 tenths that are expensive," the Frenchman explained. The Monegasque's mistake was therefore fatal for his elimination, while in Q3 Carlos Sainz paid for the last available lap. “There was a bit of chaos in the pitlane, he struggled with Alonso in the prep lap, he started well but then in turn 4 he missed the rope point and ended there.” Two mistakes of the drivers that were therefore fatal, but Vassuer put under judgment all the operation of the team, which was not perfect. “We need to be able to have a clean and perfect Qualification session.”

I mean, okay that's fair, but how about giving the drivers a car that can give them some margin for error like RedBull, Mercedes and McLaren had.

Max trashed his floor and ended up P4. This Ferrari is slow and Vasseur blaming the team for "poor execution" sounds like Binotto 2.0

[Xyz22]

How can Vasseur expect a perfect execution if they spent friday doing a testing session instead of optimizing performance?

[Vanja #66]

Taking a break for a while. I'm not sure when I will be replying to any private messages I might receive

Take care everyone, enjoy the show and stop dropping brown stuff all over the team