2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Mansell89 wrote:
06 Jul 2024, 21:57
Forgive the pathetic amateur question but with parc ferme rules are Red Bull able to fix the floor damage sustained in quali or do they have to live with it to avoid penalty?
They'd have sent the floor off to the factory for overnight repairs, but I believe they a have spare floor of the same specification. So, it's a straight swap, no penalties incurred. If they had to change to an older floor, then I think it would have been a pitlane start. Which is fair, if teams were able to swap parts over without penalty the top teams would all have more spares than you could shake a stick at.

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Dunlay wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 08:51
venkyhere wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 06:08
They are saved their blushes because they have a driver like Max. The kind of guy who can 'somehow' drag a damaged car into competitive positions. Another guy who has done it countless times like this, 'driving around the damage' is Alonso (who I think actually goes faster if the car is damaged :D )
Let's be clear that Max made a mistake and got the car damaged in the first place. Team did an excellent job recovering from the damage. Remember 2022 Hungary when Max damaged the car on sighting lap to grid and team performed a miracle to get the car fixed. It's not the driver that saved the day yesterday. It could have been better day if he hadn't damaged the car.

I personally like to see a top talent like Max fighting in adverse situations than having a leisurely Sunday walk in the park. It's so much fun to see rage fuelling a good performance against the odds. I would love to see him battle it out and enjoy a good result.
Of course the team of mechanics is great at redbull, no questions about it. You are misinterpreting my post. Yes, it was driver error that led to gravel trip. But then, it was Q and his was the first car to encounter rain in copse corner. It's not a catastrophy, making a judgement error w.r.t grip level. What I meant, was that given the level of damage (media reports everything from 100 points to 15 points loss of downforce) and the closeness of the quali times, it was a mega job to not bother with another prep lap charging battery etc and simply 'getting on with it' adjusting to the unbalanced car. They were able to do tape-up/glue jobs only in the 'gap' b/w Q1-Q2 and Q2-Q3. Where P10 would have been 'fine', he dragged the car to P4. It was so easy to 'make another mistake' while pushing with the car in Q2 and Q3, because unlike race condition where the focus is to retain track position in such cases, here 100% pushing to limits is the demand, as it's quali.

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New floor on Max's car too.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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We are sooo slow in S1 slow speed wtf

edit. verstappen now saying on radio his fronts are not working and he can't do sh*t.

Really tired of hearing this stuff all the time tbh.

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Slow.
A lion must kill its prey.

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Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:17
We are sooo slow in S1 slow speed wtf

edit. verstappen now saying on radio his fronts are not working and he can't do sh*t.

Really tired of hearing this stuff all the time tbh.
Seriously, what happened to this car? It was so dominant and now they struggle every GP. Was the upgrade really a downgrade?

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SirBastianVettel wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:23
Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:17
We are sooo slow in S1 slow speed wtf

edit. verstappen now saying on radio his fronts are not working and he can't do sh*t.

Really tired of hearing this stuff all the time tbh.
Seriously, what happened to this car? It was so dominant and now they struggle every GP. Was the upgrade really a downgrade?
Quite clearly something mechanically wrong with the car. Can't ride curbs, can't manage tyres

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Clearly 3rd fastest now..

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Max defetist attitude as soon as there's some opposition, seriously, what is this? not bothering to defend at all, he knows its a race, right?

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Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:28
Max defetist attitude as soon as there's some opposition, seriously, what is this? not bothering to defend at all, he knows its a race, right?
Just no pace

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organic wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:30
Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:28
Max defetist attitude as soon as there's some opposition, seriously, what is this? not bothering to defend at all, he knows its a race, right?
Just no pace
poor excuse. this is not some backmarker battle, you have to defend

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Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:31
organic wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:30
Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:28
Max defetist attitude as soon as there's some opposition, seriously, what is this? not bothering to defend at all, he knows its a race, right?
Just no pace
poor excuse. this is not some backmarker battle, you have to defend
Norris is 4s ahead already. You think he can cover the advantage that they had? It's p5 this race, sometimes you have to accept that there isn't the pace in the car for more

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organic wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:32
Juzh wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:31
organic wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 16:30


Just no pace
poor excuse. this is not some backmarker battle, you have to defend
Norris is 4s ahead already. You think he can cover the advantage that they had? It's p5 this race, sometimes you have to accept that there isn't the pace in the car for more
Disagree :) you can defend without being desperate

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1 second slower per lap these last few laps...

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lol

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