2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

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Of course Lando chose softs, they asked him if he wanted softs to cover Ham, or mediums to cover Verstappen 🙄
The drivers drove a great race, this one was solely on the team

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Second win in a row for Mercedes. I am just gutted. It was such an easy choice to use mediums. And before that not to double stack your drivers... pheww..

propercare
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They said having mediums is their advantage when discussing the strategy after the rain. What thought process went in those few laps to choose soft with every number showing is worst would be interesting to know :)

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Last year, people lost their minds when the team went on hards, and everyone said softs. It worked out. This time it didn't let's all calm down, and not act like planks.

Disapointing, but it happens.

Guessing more points in tge WCC over tge others though?

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Dafnalina wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:30
The drivers drove a great race, this one was solely on the team
The drivers didn't help either with their mistakes in the quali and NOR's mistake in the pits

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mwillems
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Some of the other calls this year have been debatable, but on the whole I'm OK with the team always room for improvement.

But this, was undoubtedly as big a f*ck up as it comes.
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Dimond wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:29
Mcl_G10 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:17
It was landos call, his fault
He was told "Softs to fight Hamilton or mediums to fight Verstappen", what was he supposed to choose?
To cover was the word. I think they thought RBR weren't in it.

propercare
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Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:32
Last year, people lost their minds when the team went on hards, and everyone said softs. It worked out. This time it didn't let's all calm down, and not act like planks.

Disapointing, but it happens.

Guessing more points in tge WCC over tge others though?
It was absolutely no gambe involved here, they knew medium was better, they had the tire in the beginning, soft was wrong choice in any scenario. Piastri was faster from the beginning on mediums.

Emag
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Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:32
Last year, people lost their minds when the team went on hards, and everyone said softs. It worked out. This time it didn't let's all calm down, and not act like planks.

Disapointing, but it happens.

Guessing more points in tge WCC over tge others though?
This is the sort of thinking that brings no changes where there's clearly something wrong in that pit crew. Asking drivers in the heat of the moment about strategy is outrageous. What is your job then mr engineer if the driver is making the strategy himself.

You can't go "oh well, another unlucky one went away" when it happens 3-4 times in succession. Just like they did well technically to break away from the midfield and come up with a car that can fight at the front in most conditions, it is now time to improve the organizational aspect of the team.

Because they have been throwing races by themselves. Nobody to blame.

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Today the team did what they could to lose 1st and 2nd and generally they screwed up many chances for a second win. Nothing we can do. The only good thing is that we got 8 more points than Red Bull and the difference is less than 80 points with 13 GPs remaining. We got more points than Ferrari and Mercedes. So not all is bad. Onwards to the next GP. We can definately win.

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propercare wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:35
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:32
Last year, people lost their minds when the team went on hards, and everyone said softs. It worked out. This time it didn't let's all calm down, and not act like planks.

Disapointing, but it happens.

Guessing more points in tge WCC over tge others though?
It was absolutely no gambe involved here, they knew medium was better, they had the tire in the beginning, soft was wrong choice in any scenario. Piastri was faster from the beginning on mediums.
Maybe, but my issue isn't the wrong choice, it's the claim that people all know better. When in the past it's shown they generally don't.

Dafnalina
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Lando is taking the blame, but if you listen to Max's onboards and GP, he never has to make these decisions. McLaren keeps expecting the drivers to make decisions when they don't have enough information. It's been a problem for years.


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Noris had Medium but not sure why he got soft else he would miles away ...
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Emag
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Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:39
propercare wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:35
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:32
Last year, people lost their minds when the team went on hards, and everyone said softs. It worked out. This time it didn't let's all calm down, and not act like planks.

Disapointing, but it happens.

Guessing more points in tge WCC over tge others though?
It was absolutely no gambe involved here, they knew medium was better, they had the tire in the beginning, soft was wrong choice in any scenario. Piastri was faster from the beginning on mediums.
Maybe, but my issue isn't the wrong choice, it's the claim that people all know better. When in the past it's shown they generally don't.
Come on man. You have an advantage in having a fresh set of mediums available for the car and you only have a used set of softs.

You need to do 13 laps on conditions which heavily punish the tires.

Tell me, in what universe does it make sense to put a used soft in the end there?

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Emag wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:41
Ben1980 wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:39
propercare wrote:
07 Jul 2024, 17:35


It was absolutely no gambe involved here, they knew medium was better, they had the tire in the beginning, soft was wrong choice in any scenario. Piastri was faster from the beginning on mediums.
Maybe, but my issue isn't the wrong choice, it's the claim that people all know better. When in the past it's shown they generally don't.
Come on man. You have an advantage in having a fresh set of mediums available for the car and you only have a used set of softs.

You need to do 13 laps on conditions which heavily punish the tires.

Tell me, in what universe does it make sense to put a used soft in the end there?
13 laps. More importantly, 13 push laps.

Softs was clearly wrong, they bet too heavily on the Mercs deg.
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