2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

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PlatinumZealot wrote:
16 Jul 2024, 02:35
You are reading into it a bit too deeply I'm afraid.
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Andrew Shovlin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ljhMbZgMgv

‘3 to 4 upgrades to practically the last 8 to 9 races’….

A line for those who think Merc haven’t brought many performance updates this season.
Also surely that rate isn’t sustainable within the cost cap?
Just a fan's point of view

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CjC wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 14:12
Andrew Shovlin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ljhMbZgMgv

‘3 to 4 upgrades to practically the last 8 to 9 races’….

A line for those who think Merc haven’t brought many performance updates this season.
Also surely that rate isn’t sustainable within the cost cap?
It’s sustainable if your pilots aren’t crash prone.
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CjC wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 14:12
Andrew Shovlin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ljhMbZgMgv

‘3 to 4 upgrades to practically the last 8 to 9 races’….

A line for those who think Merc haven’t brought many performance updates this season.
Also surely that rate isn’t sustainable within the cost cap?
Mercedes seems to be immune to any cost cap, the number of changes, b-cars, c-cars, they bring yearly is absolutely not seen in any other team...

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Rikhart wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 20:09
CjC wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 14:12
Andrew Shovlin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ljhMbZgMgv

‘3 to 4 upgrades to practically the last 8 to 9 races’….

A line for those who think Merc haven’t brought many performance updates this season.
Also surely that rate isn’t sustainable within the cost cap?
Mercedes seems to be immune to any cost cap, the number of changes, b-cars, c-cars, they bring yearly is absolutely not seen in any other team...
Imo it seems like a lot because instead of bringing things all at once they spread them out, even their only big upgrade so far was split over two weekends, otherwise the upgrades are pretty small. their biggest upgrades have been a new front wing and floors. Iirc they've only made tweaks to their rear wing and haven't brought a new one like others, their bodywork and sidepods are also still launch spec

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Luscion wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 20:20
Rikhart wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 20:09
CjC wrote:
17 Jul 2024, 14:12
Andrew Shovlin:
https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... ljhMbZgMgv

‘3 to 4 upgrades to practically the last 8 to 9 races’….

A line for those who think Merc haven’t brought many performance updates this season.
Also surely that rate isn’t sustainable within the cost cap?
Mercedes seems to be immune to any cost cap, the number of changes, b-cars, c-cars, they bring yearly is absolutely not seen in any other team...
Imo it seems like a lot because instead of bringing things all at once they spread them out, even their only big upgrade so far was split over two weekends, otherwise the upgrades are pretty small. their biggest upgrades have been a new front wing and floors. Iirc they've only made tweaks to their rear wing and haven't brought a new one like others, their bodywork and sidepods are also still launch spec
Wasn't even refering to this year, but in the previous 2 it was quite amazing to see the amount of overhauls they did to the car.

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RedBull and McLaren were also going hog wild with upgrades and their compliqnce with the budget cap was under scrunity.
Yes Mercedes did quite a few upgrades but it was clear they were crap produced from a child's colouring book and not the wind tunnel so obviously very cheap upgrades
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Mercedes haven't really brought much. McLaren and Ferrari have brought big almost b spec packages and red bull have modified their cooling, floor, side pods etc. Maybe their finances should be scrutinised :wink:
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Well let's see if Mercedes has sorted out their cooling issues at this circuit. I know they went pretty conservative last year. This an entirely new car so hopefully it handles the heat well. Tyre deg is going to be a big factor this weekend.

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The most interesting part of this graph is that Williams has only brought 6 upgrades, and it has some of the most wind tunnel and CFD time.
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PlatinumZealot wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 01:50
RedBull and McLaren were also going hog wild with upgrades and their compliqnce with the budget cap was under scrunity.
Yes Mercedes did quite a few upgrades but it was clear they were crap produced from a child's colouring book and not the wind tunnel so obviously very cheap upgrades
W13 and W14 floors were also cut and shut, lots of cannablised bits that were reformulated as measures to cut costs.
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SiLo wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 10:53
The most interesting part of this graph is that Williams has only brought 6 upgrades, and it has some of the most wind tunnel and CFD time.
That’s quite interesting actually. I think they will underspend until they can allocate to ‘26.
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SiLo wrote:
18 Jul 2024, 10:53
The most interesting part of this graph is that Williams has only brought 6 upgrades, and it has some of the most wind tunnel and CFD time.
As reported by Vowles, they prioritized making the car 10kg lighter. This cost a lot of money.
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Second time, I’m seeing this story. It sort of makes sense if VER is a future signing; it’s an easy fix that gives VER the necessary superiority he requires over his teammate, being as he’d be matched up against a developing ANT.

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