2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[Luscion]

Most realistic option is Mercedes. A long shot if he wants to gamble is Audi, hoping they do well in 2026, he gets along nicely with Hulkenberg. But then he might as well stay with Red Bull for 25.

We all thought (I bet including Max) Redbull would be the best in 24 and 25, such was their advantage. So it made perfect sense to stay in the team until then.

I personally think at this rate and with the departure of Adrian, Max would be better in a Mercedes in 25.

Or a McLaren. But as we have seen today McLaren don’t want to win championships so I’d rule them out.

I dont think Mclaren would drop Piastri for Max, he's been doing a very good job scoring points and getting podiums for them and its only his second year in f1, Ferrari just signed Lewis and wont drop Charles so most realistic top team is Merc with Lewis leaving

[Sergej]

that camera shot on Hannah was quite telling about the strategy today

Did we finally got the answer on what were they trying toa chieve with this retarded strategy?

I mean, letting Max being undercuted twice by Hamilton and once by Leclerc on one of the most difficult track regarding to overtaking was one of the biggest mistake they could make on strategy.

The car wasn't fast enough and when the McLaren started 1-2 and after giving back the position, the only place they could achieve was third, and they blew it with the dumbest strategy possible.

Hannah and the team let Max down this time. His anger was justified.

Marko said they underestimated the difficulty in overtaking

[Dunlay]

that camera shot on Hannah was quite telling about the strategy today

Did we finally got the answer on what were they trying toa chieve with this retarded strategy?

I mean, letting Max being undercuted twice by Hamilton and once by Leclerc on one of the most difficult track regarding to overtaking was one of the biggest mistake they could make on strategy.

The car wasn't fast enough and when the McLaren started 1-2 and after giving back the position, the only place they could achieve was third, and they blew it with the dumbest strategy possible.

Hannah and the team let Max down this time. His anger was justified.

Marko said they underestimated the difficulty in overtaking

A comfortable 3rd, regardless of the strategy, was on cards, until Max exploded. The car had comfortable pace for overtaking the Ferrari and Mercedes. Max messed up an overtake in the previous lap and ran wide and blamed the brake bias. He ignored the instructions from GP to go easy on the tyres for the first couple of laps on, but he used his own anger to invalidate it and take life out of tyres. Extremely poor racing skills for the day.

The strategy gamble was to see how to win against two McLarens. Simply following McLarens strategy or to cover Lewis wouldn't have given any better result.

[101FlyingDutchman]

Did we finally got the answer on what were they trying toa chieve with this retarded strategy?

I mean, letting Max being undercuted twice by Hamilton and once by Leclerc on one of the most difficult track regarding to overtaking was one of the biggest mistake they could make on strategy.

The car wasn't fast enough and when the McLaren started 1-2 and after giving back the position, the only place they could achieve was third, and they blew it with the dumbest strategy possible.

Hannah and the team let Max down this time. His anger was justified.

Marko said they underestimated the difficulty in overtaking

A comfortable 3rd, regardless of the strategy, was on cards, until Max exploded. The car had comfortable pace for overtaking the Ferrari and Mercedes. Max messed up an overtake in the previous lap and ran wide and blamed the brake bias. He ignored the instructions from GP to go easy on the tyres for the first couple of laps on, but he used his own anger to invalidate it and take life out of tyres. Extremely poor racing skills for the day.

The strategy gamble was to see how to win against two McLarens. Simply following McLarens strategy or to cover Lewis wouldn't have given any better result.

Nailed it

[Tommy.G]

that camera shot on Hannah was quite telling about the strategy today

Did we finally got the answer on what were they trying toa chieve with this retarded strategy?

I mean, letting Max being undercuted twice by Hamilton and once by Leclerc on one of the most difficult track regarding to overtaking was one of the biggest mistake they could make on strategy.

The car wasn't fast enough and when the McLaren started 1-2 and after giving back the position, the only place they could achieve was third, and they blew it with the dumbest strategy possible.

Hannah and the team let Max down this time. His anger was justified.

They probably thought they would have enough of an advantage with new tires at the end to pass everyone?

[FNTC]

No penalty at least, keeps 5th.

[Dunlay]

Someone should give this radio conversation between Ross Brawn and Michael Schumacher from 1998 Hungary, to Max. That's called team work.

Ross: “Michael, you have 19 laps to pull out 25 seconds. We need 19 qualifying laps from you.”

Michael: “Ok. Thank you.”

[Sergej]

Max cleared by the stewards is the only good news of this shocking weekend, losing only 8 points after all this mess feels like a miracle really, that's basically what we would have lost with Norris 1 and Max 2, which was a very acceptable result before the race

but everyone in the team, Max included, need to have a thought about today

[chrisc90]

Max cleared by the stewards is the only good news of this shocking weekend, losing only 8 points after all this mess feels like a miracle really, that's basically what we would have lost with Norris 1 and Max 2, which was a very acceptable result before the race

but everyone in the team, Max included, need to have a thought about today

Certainly the best damage limitation. Still very poorly executed though. Should have been RBR controlling the strategy, not anyone else. Think it might have been different had Max remained in P2 - which he was rightfully his spot.

[PierreW]

Did we finally got the answer on what were they trying toa chieve with this retarded strategy?

I mean, letting Max being undercuted twice by Hamilton and once by Leclerc on one of the most difficult track regarding to overtaking was one of the biggest mistake they could make on strategy.

The car wasn't fast enough and when the McLaren started 1-2 and after giving back the position, the only place they could achieve was third, and they blew it with the dumbest strategy possible.

Hannah and the team let Max down this time. His anger was justified.

Marko said they underestimated the difficulty in overtaking

A comfortable 3rd, regardless of the strategy, was on cards, until Max exploded. The car had comfortable pace for overtaking the Ferrari and Mercedes. Max messed up an overtake in the previous lap and ran wide and blamed the brake bias. He ignored the instructions from GP to go easy on the tyres for the first couple of laps on, but he used his own anger to invalidate it and take life out of tyres. Extremely poor racing skills for the day.

The strategy gamble was to see how to win against two McLarens. Simply following McLarens strategy or to cover Lewis wouldn't have given any better result.

I fully disagree.

An easy third place was only on the cards if you did not give positions to two others cars.

When the team let Leclerc and Hamilton undercut Max, then the third place was lost. Max had to take unprecedented risk to overtake Hamilton or finish fourth.

I just see that Horner said that theam team overestimated the advantage of new tyres. That's a huge mistake.

[organic]

It's fine next week new race

With the correct strategy I think RB has third here easily. After the first stint the car was quick.

[Dunlay]

The exciting part is, neither McLaren nor Red Bull can work on all compounds and on fuel levels. They are being set up for a particular compound and for a certain stint. Getting the ride height for all situations seems impossible and hence we see different cars being faster at different stages. I hope that's the case in Spa too.

[Sergej]

am I wrong or the pace at the end was quite good ? maybe they fixed this, but in turn the pace at the beginning was awful lol

[Wouter]

"Driver of car 44 could have done more to avoid the collision."

[Wouter]

It's not in his nature - he has to win everything, every time. Anything less is seen as a failure.
Probably got that from his dad.

But the team need to take Max aside and have a quiet but very firm word with him.

Manage the points from here or you will risk losing the title even with your current lead. And swearing at us down the radio isn't going to help anyone so stop that too.

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Is that so? Dr. Helmut Marko doesn't agree with that! Oh and Horner said the same: " Our strategy was wrong"!
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Marko admits mistake Red Bull: 'We completely underestimated that'

Marko admits Red Bull mistake at Hungary Grand Prix

At the German branch of Sky Sports, Marko admits that Red Bull's update package has not had the desired effect. The 81-year-old Austrian stresses that the updates did produce better lap times, but not as many as expected and certainly not as many as Max Verstappen had expected.
" We completely underestimated how difficult overtaking is here," he explains.
"We thought our speed advantage would be enough, but we couldn't overtake. That's why our strategy was wrong."