2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[Ben1980]

The win wasn't tainted.

The team have been based for not making tge most of its opportunities, so they set out to do it. Job done. Maybe a bit cautious, but maybe a nit cautious would have got more points recently.

Lando hanging it out, was pushing it a bit, but, he was always going to give it back. And when Max crashed, it was a given. I could maybe see a point, if Max was gaining, and lando had to drop 5 seconds, he could argue it. But, when that was gone, it was over for him clinging on.

Though do wonder what may have been if he wasn't behind Max then had to fight him for a bit.

But, I still think this is bigger noise on forums than actually in the team.

But Spa has RBR written all over it.

[BMMR61]

They've smoothed it. Lucky our lads have calmer heads. I don't doubt that tensions will rise between them from a point not far away.

[Swed3121]

The win wasn't tainted.

The team have been based for not making tge most of its opportunities, so they set out to do it. Job done. Maybe a bit cautious, but maybe a nit cautious would have got more points recently.

Lando hanging it out, was pushing it a bit, but, he was always going to give it back. And when Max crashed, it was a given. I could maybe see a point, if Max was gaining, and lando had to drop 5 seconds, he could argue it. But, when that was gone, it was over for him clinging on.

Though do wonder what may have been if he wasn't behind Max then had to fight him for a bit.

But, I still think this is bigger noise on forums than actually in the team.

But Spa has RBR written all over it.

Spa however also has Max engine and grid penalty writen all over it.

[Tvetovnato]

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This is not something we see very often... RB = +0.2....

That must be including Verstappen’s time in dirty air/stuck behind Hamilton though.

[FittingMechanics]

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This is not something we see very often... RB = +0.2....

That must be including Verstappen’s time in dirty air/stuck behind Hamilton though.

And the crash.

[mclaren111]

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This is not something we see very often... RB = +0.2....

That must be including Verstappen’s time in dirty air/stuck behind Hamilton though.

And the crash.

Forgot that...

[MJIM]

MasterCard deal announced.. actually forgot about that with the good races we've had!

[Macklaren]

What a coup for the team!!

Will be very interested to know the size of the deal. "Major sponsor" doesn't sound like title sponsor so maybe not as big as the RBR Oracle or Ferrari HP deals in the $100-150 million range?

[Mansell89]

Nice- the Mastercard colours really suit our livery too!

[Mezger]

It is time for the team to support Lando and give maximum effort for him to close in on the WDC. He deserves it after his long term commitment.
With a stronger Oscar backing him up it will make the team work harder and in doing so they can easily take the WCC.
As a team effort they can show the sport what they have achieved over the last long years of struggling and aiming to be back on top.
Let's bring home the WDC and WCC in 2024, as a team.

[JPower]

It is time for the team to support Lando and give maximum effort for him to close in on the WDC. He deserves it after his long term commitment.
With a stronger Oscar backing him up it will make the team work harder and in doing so they can easily take the WCC.
As a team effort they can show the sport what they have achieved over the last long years of struggling and aiming to be back on top.
Let's bring home the WDC and WCC in 2024, as a team.

I don't think modern F1 works like that anymore outside of Red Bull(and Williams in certain cases). No way to verify but I think many drivers have negotiated Barichello/Bottas-type strict #2 roles out of their contracts.

[Tvetovnato]

It is time for the team to support Lando and give maximum effort for him to close in on the WDC. He deserves it after his long term commitment.
With a stronger Oscar backing him up it will make the team work harder and in doing so they can easily take the WCC.
As a team effort they can show the sport what they have achieved over the last long years of struggling and aiming to be back on top.
Let's bring home the WDC and WCC in 2024, as a team.

I think it’s too early. With Piastris development curve already being this close to Norris, it’s not certain who is the best long term bet for McLaren. They are not ready to fight for a WDC this year anyhow, neither Norris, Piastri or McLaren, so might as well treat both as fairly they can and then decide should they need. Both are strong enough to bring the WCC home this year however, so better let them do that and let the best man win on a given day. It will benefit the team long term I think.

[Alex_Z]

It is time for the team to support Lando and give maximum effort for him to close in on the WDC. He deserves it after his long term commitment.
With a stronger Oscar backing him up it will make the team work harder and in doing so they can easily take the WCC.
As a team effort they can show the sport what they have achieved over the last long years of struggling and aiming to be back on top.
Let's bring home the WDC and WCC in 2024, as a team.

If Lando had won in Barcelona, Imola and Austria, which he should have, I strongly suspect McLaren would have backed him in Hungary to close the WDC gap even further. Lando needs to focus on maximising his own results before looking at the team for handouts.

[SmallSoldier]

Hardly, Lando came out 4,5s ahead of HAM. They easily had at least 2 more laps to order pits however they wanted.

2 more laps and 4.5 would have reduced to 2-3. A small mistake in the pits and he would have rejoined behind HAM on a track where it's very hard to overtake.

The panic on the Lando pit wall must have been extreme - "OMG, Lewis is catching at a second a lap on his new tyres!"
Both our drivers were circulating serenely (mostly) in the low 24s and Lewis on fresh new tyres emerged doing low 23s.

This is symptomatic of the malaise on that side of the garage. They had laps to spare with an inherently much quicker car with the favoured medium tyres to go on. For some reason they compounded the team order snafu by waiting another two laps to service Oscar.

We love our team but when you wait 3 years for a 1-2 finish and it's tainted this way..... words can't express it. What "they" did put their drivers through unnecessary stress when an effortless cruise to the chequered flag was given a bitter taste. Not proud of this one and I think Andrea is protecting some butts that need kicking, though not publicly. I thought having Singh on the podium felt like an "up yours" to those questioning clearly faulty decision making. I think Tom Stallard would have been a far more appropriate person to get sprayed but there you are, I'm not the manager.

I guess “tainted” is in the eyes of the beholder… I didn’t really fell for all the drama created by the commentary during the race, nor do I spend much time in social media wondering about other people reactions or opinions about the race.

It was a great weekend overall, a 1-2 in Qualifying followed by a 1-2 in the race… With a bit of drama and back and forth due to the undercut… I fully expected Lando to try to argue his case to stay upfront, was actually surprised by Piastri not having more back and forth to get the swap done… Not bothered at all with the back and forth between Lando and Will and actually appreciated Will trying to “convince” Lando why ultimately it was the right thing to do.

Just as Lando will probably not regret his first win even with the controversy about the SC, I don’t think Piastri will regret his with the controversy about Team orders… Both are now Grand Prix winners and that’s what history will show.

Finally, the reason why I have been a McLaren fan since I started watching Formula 1, 30+ years ago is mainly because they weren’t like Ferrari or Red Bull or Mercedes, it’s a Team that always felt “different” and hope they continue that way.

[Macklaren]

2 more laps and 4.5 would have reduced to 2-3. A small mistake in the pits and he would have rejoined behind HAM on a track where it's very hard to overtake.

The panic on the Lando pit wall must have been extreme - "OMG, Lewis is catching at a second a lap on his new tyres!"
Both our drivers were circulating serenely (mostly) in the low 24s and Lewis on fresh new tyres emerged doing low 23s.

This is symptomatic of the malaise on that side of the garage. They had laps to spare with an inherently much quicker car with the favoured medium tyres to go on. For some reason they compounded the team order snafu by waiting another two laps to service Oscar.

We love our team but when you wait 3 years for a 1-2 finish and it's tainted this way..... words can't express it. What "they" did put their drivers through unnecessary stress when an effortless cruise to the chequered flag was given a bitter taste. Not proud of this one and I think Andrea is protecting some butts that need kicking, though not publicly. I thought having Singh on the podium felt like an "up yours" to those questioning clearly faulty decision making. I think Tom Stallard would have been a far more appropriate person to get sprayed but there you are, I'm not the manager.

I guess “tainted” is in the eyes of the beholder… I didn’t really fell for all the drama created by the commentary during the race, nor do I spend much time in social media wondering about other people reactions or opinions about the race.

It was a great weekend overall, a 1-2 in Qualifying followed by a 1-2 in the race… With a bit of drama and back and forth due to the undercut… I fully expected Lando to try to argue his case to stay upfront, was actually surprised by Piastri not having more back and forth to get the swap done… Not bothered at all with the back and forth between Lando and Will and actually appreciated Will trying to “convince” Lando why ultimately it was the right thing to do.

Just as Lando will probably not regret his first win even with the controversy about the SC, I don’t think Piastri will regret his with the controversy about Team orders… Both are now Grand Prix winners and that’s what history will show.

Finally, the reason why I have been a McLaren fan since I started watching Formula 1, 30+ years ago is mainly because they weren’t like Ferrari or Red Bull or Mercedes, it’s a Team that always felt “different” and hope they continue that way.

Fantastic