2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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Any hints of why this car was suddenly class of the field in wet conditions? I know wet conditions equalize engine power, but what else?

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Rikhart wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:15
Any hints of why this car was suddenly class of the field in wet conditions? I know wet conditions equalize engine power, but what else?
Driver skill :lol:
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:16
Rikhart wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:15
Any hints of why this car was suddenly class of the field in wet conditions? I know wet conditions equalize engine power, but what else?
Driver skill :lol:
That too, but I am looking at Perez...

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Rikhart wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:15
Any hints of why this car was suddenly class of the field in wet conditions? I know wet conditions equalize engine power, but what else?
Engine power does make a big difference though! And with these regulations that hasn't been an issue.

It is a bit surprising anyways. I hope this is a sign of good things to come.

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Rikhart wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:18
chrisc90 wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:16
Rikhart wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 22:15
Any hints of why this car was suddenly class of the field in wet conditions? I know wet conditions equalize engine power, but what else?
Driver skill :lol:
That too, but I am looking at Perez...
Perez is not always sh*t. Sometimes he's good.

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That monster S2 by Max. Top speed was equal with Leclerc after eau rouge.


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MYsee wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 04:05
PlatinumZealot wrote:
27 Jul 2024, 02:50
Rikhart wrote:
26 Jul 2024, 21:41


How is it Max's to lose, if he has the second or third best car at the moment? His to lose would be if he had a car for victories and made mistakes, it is clearly not the case.
Piastri's race pace isn't great, so we can give him half of the remaining McLaren races to lead Max. Let's give Lando all of them... So at worst Max is ten points behind Lando in half of those races and maybe 7 points in the other. Then for the RedBull tracks he will win those surely. So on average that 75 point gap is basically his to lose.
If Lando/Max first 1/2 for the remaining races, Lando would win the WDC by a mere 1 pt.
I separate "McLaren" races from RedBull races. So i give Max a couple easy wins in there.
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High downforce setup, it was already visible on his s2 times in FP1/2. They probably hope on a good launch, than still have enough topspeed for overtaking.

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having 2 mediums instead of 2 hards could be a problem today

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Sergej wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 09:44
having 2 mediums instead of 2 hards could be a problem today
Maybe yeah. Might also be a benefit hard to say at this point

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chrisc90
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Strategy for Max last year was S-M-S. As it was with most the other teams.

Having 2 Mediums and a full set of soft's might not be as bad as it seems. If the soft degs too much, or grains (like we seen in FP1 or 2) then having a medium rather than a hard to drop back onto is a benefit IMHO.
Mess with the Bull - you get the horns.

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chrisc90 wrote:
28 Jul 2024, 10:23
Strategy for Max last year was S-M-S. As it was with most the other teams.

Having 2 Mediums and a full set of soft's might not be as bad as it seems. If the soft degs too much, or grains (like we seen in FP1 or 2) then having a medium rather than a hard to drop back onto is a benefit IMHO.
I think it's very different to previous years due to new asphalt. There is too much graining on the soft I think to be a great race tyre this year

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I have a feeling that Max starting on H is the right thing to do - there are two ways in which he can start the race - do an Alonso/Russel and charge like a bull (and increase risk of damage) and gain atleast 2-3 places OR do a Sargeant and stay clear of everyone and not gain any position, might even lose a position. I reckon the latter way is better considering the outright pace delta of RB20 vs non-McLaren cars. In which case, it makes sense to start on H tyre and not think of tyre preservation when attacking the cars ahead to gain positions after lap1. The careful nature of lap1 execution will anyway guarantee that the H is 'gently introduced' as well. The big risk with H is if there is a safety car around first pit window laps (12-16), others will get a free stop. But I think it's a risk worth taking (to start on H) because that will then ensure that when the two Ms come on later, they will do when there is relatively more chances of running-in-clean-air and making that sector2 count.

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Temperature look to be higher than expected... This should help the RB 20 considering graining will be a bit less of an issue right?

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Might help with graining, not sure if it is good overall, knowing that RedBull voted for mediums, while others for hard.