Russell faces disqualification after his Spa victory

[BalazsSzaboF1]

https://www.f1technical.net/news/25144

[bryanacook]

get in there lewis

[TeamKoolGreen]

George will not be happy with the team and he will want guarantees that this won't happen again. Totally inexcusable that your driver puts on a clinic like that and then its taken away from him because someone else didn't do their job.

[gcdugas]

At least it was just an ordinary miscalculation on the part of MB and nothing as nefarious as the BAR Honda 2004 fiasco where they had a "secret" fuel tank to help scavenging.

[bluechris]

At least it was just an ordinary miscalculation on the part of MB and nothing as nefarious as the BAR Honda 2004 fiasco where they had a "secret" fuel tank to help scavenging.

All can make a mistake but to make things worse, they went to the weight measurement with the exact amount of fuel to pass the test. That was really low imo.

[mcjamweasel]

All can make a mistake but to make things worse, they went to the weight measurement with the exact amount of fuel to pass the test. That was really low imo.

Were they able to drain fuel before it was weighed? I thought the teams couldn't do anything to the cars (except attach coolers) between the end of the race and when the scrutineers have finished with them.

[chrisc90]

All can make a mistake but to make things worse, they went to the weight measurement with the exact amount of fuel to pass the test. That was really low imo.

Were they able to drain fuel before it was weighed? I thought the teams couldn't do anything to the cars (except attach coolers) between the end of the race and when the scrutineers have finished with them.

I believe it was weighed - found too close to think limit with fuel in - asked to drain fuel - Merc left fuel in to cover the minimum weight - and fia found it

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Some rumors said George's tires weighed 1.2 kg less than Lewis's. Who was this guy, and how reliable is the source?

[Mosin123]

Some rumors said George's tires weighed 1.2 kg less than Lewis's. Who was this guy, and how reliable is the source?

Are they allowed? would seem odd allowing a team to look / study the tyres after a race? unless they had an issue, do Pirelli not take the tyres from teams as soon as they are removed, to be tested, compressed, packaged and shipped to be burnt as fuel? No one goes near LH car while they are checking GR car, with the tyres on, then checked the tyres off the car, and then with the pre approved dry weather tyre on, as can be seen in teds notebook who was live as they ran the tests.

[Just_a_fan]

Can the click-bait headline of this article be corrected, please?

https://www.f1technical.net/news/25154? ... 5c8a7ece3f

Says Shovlin reveals the cause when in fact he says they don't know and are investigating.

[DDopey]

Question, if it was the tires , how come LH didn’t get dsq after Silverstone 2020 ?

[Mosin123]

Question, if it was the tires , how come LH didn’t get dsq after Silverstone 2020 ?

It wasnt the tyres, and " damaged " parts can be replaced.

[DDopey]

Question, if it was the tires , how come LH didn’t get dsq after Silverstone 2020 ?

It wasnt the tyres, and " damaged " parts can be replaced.

Well I read in a lot of places it was the tires. And I think that 'damage' discussion can become tricky quite quick.

[Mosin123]

Question, if it was the tires , how come LH didn’t get dsq after Silverstone 2020 ?

It wasnt the tyres, and " damaged " parts can be replaced.

Well I read in a lot of places it was the tires. And I think that 'damage' discussion can become tricky quite quick.

Well, the FIA checked his tyres, then put the dry weather tyres on, as can be seen in teds notebook, 10 mins later, GR is dq'ed. If it was the tyres, he wouldnt have been dq'ed with the pre approved fia test tyre.

And Pirelli woud have come out and said it was the tyres instead of giving a long explaination on how well the tyres held up and didnt wear out as much as expected...

Ohh and Merc said it wasnt just the tyres......

Any thing else?

[Farnborough]

Some rumors said George's tires weighed 1.2 kg less than Lewis's. Who was this guy, and how reliable is the source?

Are they allowed? would seem odd allowing a team to look / study the tyres after a race? unless they had an issue, do Pirelli not take the tyres from teams as soon as they are removed, to be tested, compressed, packaged and shipped to be burnt as fuel? No one goes near LH car while they are checking GR car, with the tyres on, then checked the tyres off the car, and then with the pre approved dry weather tyre on, as can be seen in teds notebook who was live as they ran the tests.

No, thats wrong.

In Parc Fermè while weighing GR car etc, they removed the wheels from GR car first, then the MB staff came over to LH car with the nitrogen bottle nut spinner to undo his wheels too. In view was them undoing both RHS wheels (although camera cut away before removal took place). It was clearly undertaken in PF environment and not later.

The car still had to finish, on those tyres raced, then be above the minimum required weight, rubber loss inclusive.

They seemed to be investigating under instruction/jurisdiction of FIA stewards to give some insight. Whether this was requested by MB or they were directed to do so, it's not clear.

The reality is that GR car went to start at below minimum chassis weight to take account of race events. Meaning the team's calculation was wrong or just too close to the margin for them to come out of the race above weight regulation.

They have a "standard" tyre, I believe, to check suspect weight under wet conditions. That to avoid the teams making gain/adjustment etc in those circumstances. Wet tyres can be both above or below slicks in weight at various points. That aspect cannot be used to get out of a situation by a teams interpretation of the rules .

There is no mystery about this, only face saving in post exclusion statements.

They have cut the start weight to absolute minimum (all will be trying to achieve this of course) but tripped themselves in this case.