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[Jurgen von Diaz]

Them possibly favoring george is to be expected and we Hamilton fans shouldn’t feel upset by it. This is something i saw coming when the move to Ferrari was announced. Completely predictable and understandable. What im surprised by is the fact lewis is leading george in the championship.

McLaren is implementing team orders, but people are talking about Lewis, who wants everything to go according to plan, or he will play the victim card. Is this the same Lewis who battled against Rosberg for championships? The other thing: experiments, always about Lewis. As if no one else has problems with their car or strategy?

[cplchanb]

Them possibly favoring george is to be expected and we Hamilton fans shouldn’t feel upset by it. This is something i saw coming when the move to Ferrari was announced. Completely predictable and understandable. What im surprised by is the fact lewis is leading george in the championship.

McLaren is implementing team orders, but people are talking about Lewis, who wants everything to go according to plan, or he will play the victim card. Is this the same Lewis who battled against Rosberg for championships? The other thing: experiments, always about Lewis. As if no one else has problems with their car or strategy?

yea but it was George who went against team strategy to literally cherry pick the win that lewis did all the hard work for. the other teams were covering lewis for the win, not george. he set the pace of the race and he deserved the win. george pulled a massive do or die gambit but he had the benefit of having a very lonely 2nd stint after the leaders went to their third.

with regards to "experiments" it was empirically proven that lewis did most of the experiments especially in 2022 in vain attempt to correct the car. last year and this year he was still experimenting with radical set ups albeit less.

[ToffeeTyres]

Them possibly favoring george is to be expected and we Hamilton fans shouldn’t feel upset by it. This is something i saw coming when the move to Ferrari was announced. Completely predictable and understandable. What im surprised by is the fact lewis is leading george in the championship.

McLaren is implementing team orders, but people are talking about Lewis, who wants everything to go according to plan, or he will play the victim card. Is this the same Lewis who battled against Rosberg for championships? The other thing: experiments, always about Lewis. As if no one else has problems with their car or strategy?

yea but it was George who went against team strategy to literally cherry pick the win that lewis did all the hard work for. the other teams were covering lewis for the win, not george. he set the pace of the race and he deserved the win. george pulled a massive do or die gambit but he had the benefit of having a very lonely 2nd stint after the leaders went to their third.

with regards to "experiments" it was empirically proven that lewis did most of the experiments especially in 2022 in vain attempt to correct the car. last year and this year he was still experimenting with radical set ups albeit less.

Exactly this. George simply isn’t a team player. He’s selfish all for himself. Lewis is all about the team hence the experiments he’s always lifting everyone up and wanted to do the experiments for the engineers to get the car back to winning ways.

[Quantum]

[Dunlay]

Well that killed their arguments! Good old facts!! Bravo.

You can see why Ferrari have spent 400m signing Hamilton.
He will lead car design, updates, race strategy and also drive the car.

Historically, Lewis does have a very impressive record of shaping up teams into champions: Impeccable instincts, knowledge, and experience. And right now, Ferrari desperately needs his mindset more than he needs them. Ferrari is a mess and its clear Leclerc is not "The One" (at least not yet).

I consider Lewis as one of the greatest driver talents F1 has seen. Anything more than that is stretch. He never had maturity or abilities to be a team leader. His tantrums at McLaren after Jenson joined are well documented. Leaking telemetry was one of them. He was pissed off that the whole team started revolving around Jenson despite Lewis being faster of the two. Jenson was good at influencing people and build that connection. Ultimately Lewis left McLaren.

In the "Brackley Boys" podcast a year or two back, James Vowels was talking about Lewis' and said, when he arrived at Mercedes, he was a "mercenary" out there to win for himself and remained a pariah for the team. Nico was doing what Jenson did.

Not until Nico left that Lewis was the defacto No.1 driver at Mercedes and then started integrating with the team. Until 2019, he hated doing testing for the team. It was only after major tyre struggles through 2017 and 2018 and watching Seb do loads of testing was when he realised he cannot add value for development if he doesn't test.

He loses heart when the car is not performing and has thrown the team under the bus in public. That doesn't really represent his team building skills. Now compare that to Schumacher who is the role model of building teams and he never said a word against his team in public or vented out any rants over radio (whatever limited is available to be heard).

Even in 2022 to mid part of this year, he had no heart to drive the cars and was resigned from giving his 100%. If Ferrari isn't competitive, we would again see this behaviour. Not sure if Tifosi and Italian media would be as forgiving as Mercedes are. I doubt he can transform that team if it continues its current struggles. But if the car is there to compete, he would be in full glory and we can witness some great drives.

[214270]

You absolutely could see the bouncing & nervousness with the new upgrades. Not so sure it’s an easy fix by the sounds of it, or at least a whole lot more than the mechanical issues they mentioned was the reason behind removal.

[Luscion]

You absolutely could see the bouncing & nervousness with the new upgrades. Not so sure it’s an easy fix by the sounds of it, or at least a whole lot more than the mechanical issues they mentioned was the reason behind removal.

I dont think its a big issue for them, Shov was the one who said it was mechanical issues that they found and fixed a couple days ago, he also talks about it being the way they had ran the car and not the upgrades in this video too. The fact that they're confident they can run it in the very next race after the summer break while not being able to do any work on anything for 2 weeks shows its been solved imo

[Venturiation]

The debrief hints that car was lower for George meaning faster car causing plank wear

[TeamKoolGreen]

The last driver to get DSQ from a win was Schumacher in 1994. Also Senna, Prost and Hunt. So George is in good company.

[PlatinumZealot]

The last driver to get DSQ from a win was Schumacher in 1994. Also Senna, Prost and Hunt. So George is in good company.

It is indeed good company.

George is alright.. The team is in good hands going into 2025. He is young.. Maybe not as experimental as Lewis. Who is to tell if he can help "develop" the coming cars to the same degree. 2026 will be all new it his leadership skills will definitely be under the spotlight.

[TeamKoolGreen]

The debrief hints that car was lower for George meaning faster car causing plank wear

George wasn't faster in the latter half of the race clearly. But he just didn't make any mistakes and used his battery power in the traction zones. It was clinical.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

The debrief hints that car was lower for George meaning faster car causing plank wear

When the tires wear, the ride height also goes lower and causes plank wear.

[Big Tea]

The debrief hints that car was lower for George meaning faster car causing plank wear

When the tires wear, the ride height also goes lower and causes plank wear.

It is also affected by the line taken and how aggressively kerbs are scraped
You can sometimes see "stains" on the track where contact has happened, in particular this race

[Lasssept]

[214270]

Wolff was at the helm of a period of dominance that spanned 8yrs, meanwhile RB’s dominance appears to be crumbling after 2. Credit, where credit is due.