2024 Mclaren Formula 1 Team

[Ben1980]

but also Silverstone was gifted to them because McLaren had two drivers capable of going for the win there but they were both screwed over by questionable strategy decisions.

I don't agree with this at all. We were only the fastest car in Silverstone when it was damp and everyone was running worn inters. The only way we win that race is if we build a huge gap in that phase and then there are no safety cars. But in full wet or full dry conditions, other cars were much faster.

Oscar was the fastest driver, or joint-fastest with Max at the last stint ...

If Lando goes out on mediums instead of softs, it's almost 100% guaranteed he overtakes Lewis on-track. Only had 2.something seconds to make up.

Not quite sure it was that cut and dried. He would have still had max chasing him down, on tyres up to temp.

He could have won, he also may not have won. It's not 100%

[Ben1980]

The Mclaren has been very good, but the Mercedes deserved the win in Spa and was better in qualifying and the race.

[BMMR61]

The Mclaren has been very good, but the Mercedes deserved the win in Spa and was better in qualifying and the race.

Yes, with the caveat that McLaren setup for a dry race sacrificing grid position, unaware as everyone was, that overtaking was going to be much harder than usual at this track. Oscar in clean air showed tremendous pace, fair play to Lewis for getting to the front on lap 1 and getting the use of that clear air.

[Emag]

I don't agree with this at all. We were only the fastest car in Silverstone when it was damp and everyone was running worn inters. The only way we win that race is if we build a huge gap in that phase and then there are no safety cars. But in full wet or full dry conditions, other cars were much faster.

Oscar was the fastest driver, or joint-fastest with Max at the last stint ...

If Lando goes out on mediums instead of softs, it's almost 100% guaranteed he overtakes Lewis on-track. Only had 2.something seconds to make up.

Not quite sure it was that cut and dried. He would have still had max chasing him down, on tyres up to temp.

He could have won, he also may not have won. It's not 100%

Max was nearly 6 seconds back. If Oscar could keep on Max's pace, there is no reason to believe Lando couldn't be thereabouts too.

If he went out on mediums, then its all on Lando. It would have been his race to lose.

[mwillems]

IIRC Stella said that they needed to investigate & understand as to why the car's performance was better than expected after Miami and I suspect this is why there are delays in upgrades...

Yes I believe so as well, otherwise you can go backwards.

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

[bauc]

IIRC Stella said that they needed to investigate & understand as to why the car's performance was better than expected after Miami and I suspect this is why there are delays in upgrades...

Yes I believe so as well, otherwise you can go backwards.

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Yeah, it can be anything really, just by exploiting all set-up options, a car gets faster trough the season by 0.5 to 1 seconds anyway so we will never find out I guess

[CjC]

IIRC Stella said that they needed to investigate & understand as to why the car's performance was better than expected after Miami and I suspect this is why there are delays in upgrades...

Yes I believe so as well, otherwise you can go backwards.

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Correct he did.
Without getting too excited maybe the analysis of the Miami upgrade on track found a massive development direction so they just switched to the new route and abandoned previous development and just pulled the trigger on upgrades which were basically ready to manufacture…?

[mwillems]

Yes I believe so as well, otherwise you can go backwards.

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Yeah, it can be anything really, just by exploiting all set-up options, a car gets faster trough the season by 0.5 to 1 seconds anyway so we will never find out I guess

I've a feeling that they may not be releasing parts as a package but are still developing as a package. Trying to balance build cost versus cfd and tunnel time weighted towards doing enough to keep us in the constructors.

Going all in on the constructors this year is not the optimum route to starting next year with the fastest car.

I'm not concerned with the rate at which parts are released, but by the development curve and performance gain vs development time.

Understandably, some are eager to see parts. I want to see an efficient and focussed development process.

[bauc]

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Yeah, it can be anything really, just by exploiting all set-up options, a car gets faster trough the season by 0.5 to 1 seconds anyway so we will never find out I guess

I've a feeling that they may not be releasing parts as a package but are still developing as a package. Trying to balance build cost versus cfd and tunnel time weighted towards doing enough to keep us in the constructors.

Going all in on the constructors this year is not the optimum route to starting next year with the fastest car.

I'm not concerned with the rate at which parts are released, but by the development curve and performance gain vs development time.

Understandably, some are eager to see parts. I want to see an efficient and focussed development process.

Agree 100%

[mwillems]

Yes I believe so as well, otherwise you can go backwards.

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Correct he did.
Without getting too excited maybe the analysis of the Miami upgrade on track found a massive development direction so they just switched to the new route and abandoned previous development and just pulled the trigger on upgrades which were basically ready to manufacture…?

I'm sure they would immediately incorporate all learning into parts not yet built. I doubt they threw away old ideas rather than just adapt them, but who knows. If that is something that they did them it is only because it is more efficient and effective.

I'm not sure when parts will arrive. There's a lot of races close together now. 4 races in 5 weeks from the next race, then a month off till the USA.

[mclaren111]

I think they stated soon afterwards where they thought the time had come from and made the point of saying they won't explain what it was.

Yeah, it can be anything really, just by exploiting all set-up options, a car gets faster trough the season by 0.5 to 1 seconds anyway so we will never find out I guess

I've a feeling that they may not be releasing parts as a package but are still developing as a package. Trying to balance build cost versus cfd and tunnel time weighted towards doing enough to keep us in the constructors.

Going all in on the constructors this year is not the optimum route to starting next year with the fastest car.

I'm not concerned with the rate at which parts are released, but by the development curve and performance gain vs development time.

Understandably, some are eager to see parts. I want to see an efficient and focussed development process.

Agree... I would also start on MCL39 earlier to ensure we start 2025 strong...

[Ground Effect]

Yeah, it can be anything really, just by exploiting all set-up options, a car gets faster trough the season by 0.5 to 1 seconds anyway so we will never find out I guess

I've a feeling that they may not be releasing parts as a package but are still developing as a package. Trying to balance build cost versus cfd and tunnel time weighted towards doing enough to keep us in the constructors.

Going all in on the constructors this year is not the optimum route to starting next year with the fastest car.

I'm not concerned with the rate at which parts are released, but by the development curve and performance gain vs development time.

Understandably, some are eager to see parts. I want to see an efficient and focussed development process.

Agree... I would also start on MCL39 earlier to ensure we start 2025 strong...

100% agree with this.

[Seerix]

Good news, Stella extends his contract with Mclaren.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula- ... ea-stella/

[Dimond]

Good news, Stella extends his contract with Mclaren.

Great! I'm afraid Ferrari will come after him one day and as Italian he won't be able to resist

[Macklaren]

Good thing is that he has scratched that itch for many many years