2024 Mercedes-AMG | Petronas F1 Team

[Just_a_fan]

https://i.postimg.cc/xCd9MSWD/jwf2ly93ltfd1.png

Interesting stats but taking out DNFs seems strange. OK, if the DNF is a mechanical failure, but if a driver drops it then that's a race result and should count. (That applies to all such driver stats before anyone screams bias on my part).

[SKYnRacing24]

https://i.postimg.cc/xCd9MSWD/jwf2ly93ltfd1.png

0.004 lmao christ. Still , its been quite a season for Georgie boy. Hamilton coming on song nicely aswell. They really are the best lineup on the grid imo. 2nd half should be interesting. The W15 has potential to work on most of the remaining tracks.

[Jurgen von Diaz]

Without DSQ and DNF in Silverstone from strong points and points status would be other way. Merc got quality pairing.

[PlatinumZealot]

The problem with the W15 coming is good is that Lewis gets more motivated and when he gets more motivated he is extremely hard to beat.

Spa was one of those races where there is no clear reason why George was slower. No complaints from his side but he just was slower. That's that old Hamilton pace coming back.

[AR3-GP]

The problem with the W15 coming is good is that Lewis gets more motivated and when he gets more motivated he is extremely hard to beat.

Spa was one of those races where there is no clear reason why George was slower. No complaints from his side but he just was slower. That's that old Hamilton pace coming back.

By what measure was George slower?

In qualifying there was a 4km/h difference in top speed in George's favor. Hamilton likely benefitted from a more loaded setup in the wet conditions. In the race, Hamilton picked off Perez on the first lap, and then only had to use DRS to pass Leclerc. Russell got stuck in a DRS train. From there they were on different strategies and in different situations. It is difficult to make any comparison.

[taperoo2k]

The problem with the W15 coming is good is that Lewis gets more motivated and when he gets more motivated he is extremely hard to beat.

Spa was one of those races where there is no clear reason why George was slower. No complaints from his side but he just was slower. That's that old Hamilton pace coming back.

By what measure was George slower?

In qualifying there was a 4km/h difference in top speed in George's favor. Hamilton likely benefitted from a more loaded setup in the wet conditions. In the race, Hamilton picked off Perez on the first lap, and then only had to use DRS to pass Leclerc. Russell got stuck in a DRS train. From there they were on different strategies and in different situations. It is difficult to make any comparison.

When Lewis is motivated, he finds speed that few drivers can unlock, other than Max and Alonso.
It's not something that'll you see outright in the data, it's just one of the magic things about F1.

[Matt2725]

The problem with the W15 coming is good is that Lewis gets more motivated and when he gets more motivated he is extremely hard to beat.

Spa was one of those races where there is no clear reason why George was slower. No complaints from his side but he just was slower. That's that old Hamilton pace coming back.

By what measure was George slower?

In qualifying there was a 4km/h difference in top speed in George's favor. Hamilton likely benefitted from a more loaded setup in the wet conditions. In the race, Hamilton picked off Perez on the first lap, and then only had to use DRS to pass Leclerc. Russell got stuck in a DRS train. From there they were on different strategies and in different situations. It is difficult to make any comparison.

When Lewis is motivated, he finds speed that few drivers can unlock, other than Max and Alonso.
It's not something that'll you see outright in the data, it's just one of the magic things about F1.

When the car is easier to drive as it is developed across the season, Lewis gets faster. Stop the press.

Will it be a lack of motivation when Russell inevitably finishes ahead of Lewis in multiple races post summer break?

[Jurgen von Diaz]

-

[PlatinumZealot]

When the car is easier to drive as it is developed across the season, Lewis gets faster. Stop the press.

Will it be a lack of motivation when Russell inevitably finishes ahead of Lewis in multiple races post summer break?

That is a legit effect of racing for 18 years! Yes. Why not. We already know this and it is also why he is going to Ferrari.

Will you travel behind our carvan to the Ferrari thread next year Matt?

[Jurgen von Diaz]

By what measure was George slower?

In qualifying there was a 4km/h difference in top speed in George's favor. Hamilton likely benefitted from a more loaded setup in the wet conditions. In the race, Hamilton picked off Perez on the first lap, and then only had to use DRS to pass Leclerc. Russell got stuck in a DRS train. From there they were on different strategies and in different situations. It is difficult to make any comparison.

When Lewis is motivated, he finds speed that few drivers can unlock, other than Max and Alonso.
It's not something that'll you see outright in the data, it's just one of the magic things about F1.

When the car is easier to drive as it is developed across the season, Lewis gets faster. Stop the press.

Will it be a lack of motivation when Russell inevitably finishes ahead of Lewis in multiple races post summer break?

Speak of easy-to-drive cars: the hybrid Mercedes. George jumped into Lewis's car in 2020 and was immediately on his way to his maiden victory before Mercedes had its Ferrari-like moment at the pit stop.

[Mosin123]

When Lewis is motivated, he finds speed that few drivers can unlock, other than Max and Alonso.
It's not something that'll you see outright in the data, it's just one of the magic things about F1.

When the car is easier to drive as it is developed across the season, Lewis gets faster. Stop the press.

Will it be a lack of motivation when Russell inevitably finishes ahead of Lewis in multiple races post summer break?

Speak of easy-to-drive cars: the hybrid Mercedes. George jumped into Lewis's car in 2020 and was immediately on his way to his maiden victory before Mercedes had its Ferrari-like moment at the pit stop.

He was Merc reserve / sim driver no? and team youth development driver? so its not like he didnt know the car..

People say about his 2020 app like he never had any thing to do with the car that year, its completely wrong... he probs did more hours in the sim than both Bottas and LH did FP sessions, q sessions, and races.....

[Jurgen von Diaz]

When the car is easier to drive as it is developed across the season, Lewis gets faster. Stop the press.

Will it be a lack of motivation when Russell inevitably finishes ahead of Lewis in multiple races post summer break?

Speak of easy-to-drive cars: the hybrid Mercedes. George jumped into Lewis's car in 2020 and was immediately on his way to his maiden victory before Mercedes had its Ferrari-like moment at the pit stop.

He was Merc reserve / sim driver no? and team youth development driver? so its not like he didnt know the car..

People say about his 2020 app like he never had any thing to do with the car that year, its completely wrong... he probs did more hours in the sim than both Bottas and LH did FP sessions, q sessions, and races.....

Well, Bottas was married to that car, so if someone who drives the other car on the grid jumps Lewis’s car and is immediately on the way to victory; so yes, the car must be easy to drive. The 2020 Mercedes was one of the most dominant cars in history, with which the team would have been able to take a 1-2 victory without their lead driver.

[Mosin123]

Speak of easy-to-drive cars: the hybrid Mercedes. George jumped into Lewis's car in 2020 and was immediately on his way to his maiden victory before Mercedes had its Ferrari-like moment at the pit stop.

He was Merc reserve / sim driver no? and team youth development driver? so its not like he didnt know the car..

People say about his 2020 app like he never had any thing to do with the car that year, its completely wrong... he probs did more hours in the sim than both Bottas and LH did FP sessions, q sessions, and races.....

Well, Bottas was married to that car, so if someone who drives the other car on the grid jumps Lewis’s car and is immediately on the way to victory; so yes, the car must be easy to drive. The 2020 Mercedes was one of the most dominant cars in history, with which the team would have been able to take a 1-2 victory without their lead driver.

No they dont, People like you assume it, You cant win a championship in the slowest car..... F1 is a constructors Championship first and foremost, If you have the fastest car, no shitting, your expected to win irrelevent of driver, if driver is bad... Well, Look at the rubbish Perez gets and you get the picture.....

Team and driver account for like 5 - 10 % max....

[Jurgen von Diaz]

He was Merc reserve / sim driver no? and team youth development driver? so its not like he didnt know the car..

People say about his 2020 app like he never had any thing to do with the car that year, its completely wrong... he probs did more hours in the sim than both Bottas and LH did FP sessions, q sessions, and races.....

Well, Bottas was married to that car, so if someone who drives the other car on the grid jumps Lewis’s car and is immediately on the way to victory; so yes, the car must be easy to drive. The 2020 Mercedes was one of the most dominant cars in history, with which the team would have been able to take a 1-2 victory without their lead driver.

No they dont, People like you assume it, You cant win a championship in the slowest car..... F1 is a constructors Championship first and foremost, If you have the fastest car, no shitting, your expected to win irrelevent of driver, if driver is bad... Well, Look at the rubbish Perez gets and you get the picture.....

Team and driver account for like 5 - 10 % max....

It's more like 50% of driver ability when it comes to Red Bull. Nevertheless, hybrid-Mercedes-like dominance was never seen before when they ran their engines underpowered so that they wouldn't lap the whole field several laps.

[Mosin123]

Well, Bottas was married to that car, so if someone who drives the other car on the grid jumps Lewis’s car and is immediately on the way to victory; so yes, the car must be easy to drive. The 2020 Mercedes was one of the most dominant cars in history, with which the team would have been able to take a 1-2 victory without their lead driver.

No they dont, People like you assume it, You cant win a championship in the slowest car..... F1 is a constructors Championship first and foremost, If you have the fastest car, no shitting, your expected to win irrelevent of driver, if driver is bad... Well, Look at the rubbish Perez gets and you get the picture.....

Team and driver account for like 5 - 10 % max....

It's more like 50% of driver ability when it comes to Red Bull. Nevertheless, hybrid-Mercedes-like dominance was never seen before when they ran their engines underpowered so that they wouldn't lap the whole field several laps.

50 % is Max? so what your saying is, Redbull team is worse than Has, But Max is dragging them up, with perez giving 3 % less than Max right? so for LH and co, it was the car, but for Max its Max...

Cool.