DRS design project help

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Ammo Woods
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My name is Amelie and I am a 17 year old with a HUGE passion in Motorsports specifically F1. I am doing a year 12 research project at the Australian Science and Mathematics School around DRS and Formula 1 and I was wondering if you had a few minutes to answer a couple of my questions. Your knowledge would be so valuable to me!

Link to questionnaire: https://forms.gle/PHEVWD1Gmz2fEdXF7

Thank you so much for your time!

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I've removed the all caps title.
Also, you might want to add the text from your intro to the questionnaire here in the thread?
It is aimed only to people working in motorsports, right?
Rivals, not enemies. (Now paraphrased from A. Newey).

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Ammo Woods wrote:
05 Aug 2024, 03:32
My name is Amelie and I am a 17 year old with a HUGE passion in Motorsports specifically F1. I am doing a year 12 research project at the Australian Science and Mathematics School around DRS and Formula 1 and I was wondering if you had a few minutes to answer a couple of my questions. Your knowledge would be so valuable to me!

Link to questionnaire: https://forms.gle/PHEVWD1Gmz2fEdXF7

Thank you so much for your time!

Good luck and enjoy...

Ammo Woods
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Yes, I am aiming for topic professionals but some enthusiasts might be helpful too (just specify in the job question you aren't a professional)

I am a year 11 student at the Australian Science and Mathematics School and I have always had a massive interest in engineering and hope to be an engineer in Formula 1 one day. For my research project I am asking the question of: “Theoretically is there a better design than Drag Reduction Systems that doesn't have a mechanical element and could this be used after the ban on DRS in 2026?” This question involves prototyping and designing a rear wing that doesn't have a mechanical element in it and uses the forces of nature to design an alternative to DRS (we are ignoring push to pass, KERS and other systems; this is purely a rear wing design). If you could take some time to answer these questions that would be much appreciated but also I understand that you may want to keep secrecy and that is why none of the questions are required to be answered but if you could answer as many as possible that would be amazing!

UlleGulle
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Google F-duct.

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So Amelie (lovely film by the way), the first thing in engineering is to define your requirements. You have specified no mechanical control, but then what is your DRS supposed to accomplish? is it something like "a push button activated system to reduce drag that is self powered"?

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by coincidence .....
the Flexiwings 2024 thread in the General Chat section (in post 28 July by AR3-GP) has footage of such a system in use
on the 2014 Toyota TS040

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UlleGulle wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 11:35
Google F-duct.
Or use the forum search and read the development of this as it happened in this place.

I can't remember what the poster called it when sharing the teasers from his role in McLaren at the time.

I'll go find it..it's bugging me

Edit to add - "Dead zone"

MP4-25 thread was epic
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Greg Locock wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 12:27
So Amelie (lovely film by the way), the first thing in engineering is to define your requirements. You have specified no mechanical control, but then what is your DRS supposed to accomplish? is it something like "a push button activated system to reduce drag that is self powered"?
I am hoping to have a system that can open and close on its own when the lift and drag ratios change, so essentially it can't be manually controlled by the driver. I am working alongside a race engineer in South Australia that believes it may be able to be done if not we have many other ideas that we could pivot too. At this point I just need the questions in my link answered by as many people as possible and then the design process can start :)

Ammo Woods
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UlleGulle wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 11:35
Google F-duct.
I am aware what F-ducts are however they are controlled by the driver, I am aiming for it not to be controlled by the driver and essentially move on their own.

Ammo Woods
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CMSMJ1 wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 15:12
UlleGulle wrote:
07 Aug 2024, 11:35
Google F-duct.
Or use the forum search and read the development of this as it happened in this place.

I can't remember what the poster called it when sharing the teasers from his role in McLaren at the time.

I'll go find it..it's bugging me

Edit to add - "Dead zone"

MP4-25 thread was epic
Thank you! I will look into that, maybe I can learn more than what they put in articles from that!