2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

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K1Plus wrote:
08 Aug 2024, 17:07
Singapore will be Mercedes vs McLaren. Can't solve kerb issues overnight. Austin will be equal between the top 3 cars.
Baku I might expect them to win just based on pure aerodynamic efficiency and straight line speed. Monza too.
Over one lap pace you mean. McL simply have everyone on tire deg. They have managed to win 2 out of the 10 races with the best car.

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I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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Big Gun wrote:
09 Aug 2024, 21:06
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

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Big Gun wrote:
09 Aug 2024, 21:06
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTqHebxWAAA ... name=small
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Marko now also admits to ESPN that when appointing the Australian in 2023, they wanted to see if there were opportunities for him
at Red Bull:
"If Daniel had clearly proven to be faster than Yuki, there would have been the idea to bring him back to Red Bull Racing.
But he has had his ups and downs. Up until now, he does not meet the criteria to be a Red Bull Racing driver."
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Big Gun wrote:
09 Aug 2024, 21:06
I think its clear that Ricciardo has the upper hand now vs Yuki.
Especially the last 5 races, Ricciardo should be in the Red Bull imo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTqHebxWAAA ... name=small
yuki has damage to his car that coudnt be fix before the race.he also had damage to his car in barcelona.the team just need to do its jop.

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Formula 2 title challenger Gabriel Bortoleto thinks Sergio Perez will lose his Red Bull seat at the end of F1 2024.

“I think Perez will be out next year,” Bortoleto said on a video cast on Motorsport.com‘s Brazilian subsidiary .

For me if he can win enough points to help Red Bull win the constructors championship this season, he is likely to keep his seat with Red Bull for the next season.
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stephen wrote:
11 Aug 2024, 12:49
For me if he can win enough points to help Red Bull win the constructors championship this season, he is likely to keep his seat with Red Bull for the next season.
Currently, this is a really big IF.

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Tsunoda should be in the Red Bull seat.


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Jurgen von Diaz wrote:
11 Aug 2024, 17:21
Tsunoda should be in the Red Bull seat.

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From Motorsport.com:
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Supertimes gaps for the 10 team-mate pairings so far in 2024

To get a clearer view of the drivers’ actual speed, we’ve looked at supertimes. Supertimes are based on the fastest single lap by each driver at each race weekend, expressed as a percentage of the fastest single lap overall and averaged over the season.
This normally means qualifying and also has the benefit of largely (though not entirely) eradicating a driver struck with a problem or misfortune in a given session because it takes into account the whole weekend. It’s not perfect – it gives us no steer on how consistent a driver is over a race stint, for example – but for raw speed, it can be enlightening.

1. Gasly-Ocon 0.015%
2. Russell-Hamilton 0.101%
3. Leclerc-Sainz 0.134%
4. Norris-Piastri 0.185%
5. Tsunoda-Ricciardo 0.196%
6. Alonso-Stroll 0.211%
7. Hulkenberg-Magnussen 0.426%
8. Bottas-Zhou 0.643%
9. Albon-Sargeant 0.675%
10. Verstappen-Perez 0.953%

It should be noted that the gap between Tsunoda and Ricciardo has been closing in recent GPs.
The first thing to note is how remarkably close Alpine drivers Pierre Gasly and Esteban Ocon are.
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Much has been said and written about Perez’s struggles at Red Bull alongside Verstappen, but it’s worth putting
the current 0.953% gap into context.

Firstly, it’s the biggest gap between the two we’ve seen since they became team-mates for 2021, the closest being 0.545% in 2022.
That suggests that whatever the root of Perez’s problems are, they are not improving.
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Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.

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ispano6 wrote:
11 Aug 2024, 18:33
Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.
Albon raced for Red Bull. What does being Asian have to do with it?
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to be fair to redbull they are the only f1 team with drivers of diverse background from asian ,european ,middle eastern, south america,oceanic

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AR3-GP wrote:
11 Aug 2024, 19:06
ispano6 wrote:
11 Aug 2024, 18:33
Yuki being much younger has a much higher ceiling than Ricciardo. The stigma of being Japanese/Asian and also Honda backing is being held against him. It's clear this is Horner's decision and while people think that Ric is getting closer, it is more that Yuki doesn't give a --- anymore it seems.
Albon raced for Red Bull. What does being Asian have to do with it?
It's hard to pinpoint. But equating Alex and Yuki as the same "asian" is again an example of the "othering" aspect. Yuki has a cultural and language "barrier" to overcome compared to Alex. They've come through in vastly different ways, and they at least gave Alex a chance in the seat and deemed him too early. In any case, people will call out "attitude" but I remember Max, Seb, and don't see much difference in Yuki. People think of it as "disrespect toward your engineer etc" but it's not, drivers shouldn't have to be like that when they need a killer instinct, particularly when struggling to be competitive relative to your current position.