Italian GP 2009 - Monza

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sunny1304 wrote:i am having a feeling that kimi will pass lewis tomorrow because kimi will have a better chance to maximize kers than hamilton as from 3rd place kimi have to run longer than lewis to the 1st corner as kimi is in 3rd and lewis is on pole.

i may b wrong .
TBH everyone has a duff start from time to time. Its almost impossible to predict what happens. Sutil is undoubtedly the most vunerable though. If he isnt taken off the start he will be on the next lap along one of the straights.

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a safety car would ruin Hamiltons race, his seriously gotta go and go fast. He doesn't need a safety car to bunch the grid back up.

He should of had more fuel. Its like rubens has said - getting on pole isn't everything. If they put the same amount of fuel as kovi i think he could have got 3rd and would be looking at increased chances to win this race.

Sutil will fall back to 4th i feel by then end of the 1st lap. 2 Kers cars behind him. Altho for Hamiltons sake, sutil needs to hold them up

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That's a KERSed bit of luck for Sutil... :?

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astracrazy wrote:a safety car would ruin Hamiltons race, his seriously gotta go and go fast. He doesn't need a safety car to bunch the grid back up.
Unless Kovi intentionally crashes on lap 18 :wink:

Seems like alot of the teams are going for a 1 stop strategy, maybe expecting an SC or rain

53 total laps, 17.33 for 3 equal length stints, Vettle pitted at 18 last year, Alonso @ 20 in '07, MS @ 14 in '06

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I kovi is on his A game throughout the whole race I think he can take Kimi.

Kimi is right behind Hamilton and passing down the main straight is going to be extremely risky because of that nasty chicane. Even if he Boosts and get beside Hamilton all Hamilton has to do is just hold the Line.. So Kimi has to brake or run off track or risk pile up. Not to mention trouble from Kovi and Sutil. IMO Kimi's best option is to wait right after that chicane to make his move.

Sutil just has to hang on.. :lol:

All Hamilton has to do is Burst a quarter of His KERS.. Keep the MIDDLE line up to the chicane, and relax. Nothing can stop him except himself.. Not even Kovi's extra 30kg of fuel is enough if he can not do anything with it.
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n smikle wrote:Not even Kovi's extra 30kg of fuel is enough if he can not do anything with it.
For getting past Hamilton? I beg to differ. This board has got them pitting 11-13 laps apart. No one else but Force India thought the front row was worth so much to pit so early. If the field-stretch isn't much before Hamilton pits he could be find himself behind a very heavy Trulli. Even coming out behind the Brawn's could be a kiss of death. I'd agree with the people who said Heikki's in the best position. He's been quick all weekend to boot.
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jon-mullen wrote:
n smikle wrote:Not even Kovi's extra 30kg of fuel is enough if he can not do anything with it.
For getting past Hamilton? I beg to differ. This board has got them pitting 11-13 laps apart. No one else but Force India thought the front row was worth so much to pit so early. If the field-stretch isn't much before Hamilton pits he could be find himself behind a very heavy Trulli. Even coming out behind the Brawn's could be a kiss of death. I'd agree with the people who said Heikki's in the best position. He's been quick all weekend to boot.
Please look at the lap that the last 3 winners of this race have pitted on the first stint.

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That's a good point. I've got Vettel lap 18 ('08), Alonso lap 20 ('07) and Schumi lap 16 ('06).

To be fair about last year's, though, it started under a safety car and Vettel built a huge gap on Heikki in the first few laps.

If it's such a great strategy why didn't even one of the four driver's championship contenders go for it though?
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Super racing wrote:
astracrazy wrote:a safety car would ruin Hamiltons race, his seriously gotta go and go fast. He doesn't need a safety car to bunch the grid back up.
Unless Kovi intentionally crashes on lap 18 :wink:
that wont this yr as the rules r changed

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Looks like rain is a possibility for this race.. If it rains anywhere before the pit stop window for Sutil/Hamilton; that's great.. but anywhere after... :oops: strategy out the window.. they have to stop for tyres twice in one stint. :wtf:
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If it rains, all bets are off, anything can happen.

Horrible engine reliability from BMW continues. It looks like their P86 engine was on the limit of reliability last year, and with the increased mileage engines must face this year the P86 simply can't handle the demands.

The Top 10 is dominated by Mercedes-powered cars. Anyone who doesn't think Mercedes has the top engine is fooling themselves. Also the talk from some of the teams and the FIA that the engines on the grid are equal is rubbish. Mercedes clearly has an advantage here, and Ferrari also have a small one too.

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Yeah, I think this track shows power shortage of an engine very well. If so, Toyota is rubbish and Renault is only slightly better, forcing Red Bull to sacrifice downforce to be competitive on the straights.