2024 Oracle Red Bull Racing F1 Team

[JordanMugen]

If he was not being pushed hard by Mclaren and Merc he would not have to drive so close to the edge and would probably be happy with it. Not having that margin away from being on the edge means less scope to "drive around" problems.

Yeah sure. But that's why he is Verstappen, he can push to the max. He's rather good!

The bigger question is could Ricciardo push to the max in the second car in a better way than Perez can?

Us Formula One fans enjoy watching drivers push 110% in cars that are difficult, no? Much more exciting than someone cruising at 90% in a car that's dominant!

Edit -- For Red Bull fans, being a slower car will make it much sweeter when Red Bull takes the odd hard fought victory, much like 2014-2020 days, no?

[TNTHead]

Unless they gave found pace overnight and VER does a mega lap I suspect based on FP1 and FP2 that pole position is out of reach. I expect the Mercs again on the front row.

[Sergej]

seems the rain is gone, not sure it's good news for us

[AR3-GP]

Better than expected, but that Mclaren is in another formula. P2 is a great starting spot for damage limitation.

[Sergej]

good P2 but man, over three tenths ! it hurts

[Juzh]

Once again mclaren proves peak DF is not the thing to hunt in these regs. They were slower in all high speed corners, but faster in just about all sub 200 kmh, which is the majority of them and you spend more time in those corners.
Tommorow it'll be a race with piastri, i dont believe norris can lose this unless he hits some serious trouble

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P2 will be a good result tomorrow. Hopefully Max can give Norris some trouble at T1 and maybe he can tumble down the order again.

At least the car seems clear of Mercedes here. Starting P2 is much better than I expected coming into the weekend

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Helmut Marko

"I think we went in the right direction. It still looked very good up to T12. Max lost 1.5 to 2.5 tenths there, hence the relatively large gap for this track."

"But the car as a whole is calmer. That also means for the race that tyre wear will probably be better now."

"At least we have split the McLaren cars. We are satisfied, even if not completely."

[AR3-GP]

the car as a whole is calmer

A car with no front end can be described as calm.

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the car as a whole is calmer

A car with no front end can be described as calm.

for sure, but it doesn't sound like they set the car up intending to get pole and then didn't get it. It sounds like they went in a direction that would make the car more settled

Nevertheless we knew the McLaren would be faster on this sort of circuit (if not every sort?)

Verstappen maybe more realistic

Verstappen said: " We lacked a bit of pace , I tried to do my best and I'm happy with the front row. The balance of the car is not the best , the car is not easy to drive and it seemed to be affected a lot by the gusts of wind. Every lap was different from the other. I would like to say that tomorrow I hope to win, but with more than 3 tenths of a gap it is difficult"

“We’ve been having difficulties for about seven races now. We’re trying to understand how to improve the situation , but there’s no magic button that changes things. We’re trying

[ME4ME]

If you forsee tyre wear to be a major factor in sundays race than i guess it makes sense to go high-downforce (VER) and a slightly understeery setup.

In Perez case they might've expected him to qualify around his usual P10 so put him on a lower downforce setup to aid overtaking.

But however one looks at it, Red Bulls car performance is disappointing, their Hungary update doesn't seem to do much and their year-on-year relative Zandvoort progress is shocking.

[Wouter]

Helmut Marko

"I think we went in the right direction. It still looked very good up to T12. Max lost 1.5 to 2.5 tenths there, hence the relatively large gap for this track."

"But the car as a whole is calmer. That also means for the race that tyre wear will probably be better now."

"At least we have split the McLaren cars. We are satisfied, even if not completely."

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Max: "To be honest, I did expect that the other McLaren would also be ahead. So in itself I'm happy with that second place. We just have to be realistic that it's not in the cards at the moment. Also in qualifying it was just quite difficult to drive a good lap. Very sensitive with the wind and balance was just very difficult. So yes, there just wasn't more in it."

When Verstappen was asked what he was suffering from, he joked: " upside-down steering.
Oversteer, understeer, as Rudy said. All in different spots of the track, so that was fun. No, it wasn't. It was sarcastic."

[AR3-GP]

Helmut Marko

"I think we went in the right direction. It still looked very good up to T12. Max lost 1.5 to 2.5 tenths there, hence the relatively large gap for this track."

"But the car as a whole is calmer. That also means for the race that tyre wear will probably be better now."

"At least we have split the McLaren cars. We are satisfied, even if not completely."

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Max: "To be honest, I did expect that the other McLaren would also be ahead. So in itself I'm happy with that second place. We just have to be realistic that it's not in the cards at the moment. Also in qualifying it was just quite difficult to drive a good lap. Very sensitive with the wind and balance was just very difficult. So yes, there just wasn't more in it."

When Verstappen was asked what he was suffering from, he joked: " upside-down steering.
Oversteer, understeer, as Rudy said. All in different spots of the track, so that was fun. No, it wasn't. It was sarcastic."

I think Ver was talking about the wind there. In theory, the car will become more settled on full fuel, and the wind should not be as bad tomorrow. I don't think that's enough to beat Mclaren.

I don't know why my comment is showing italics.

[Wouter]

[Vanja #66]

Verstappen's spec is the same as launch spec, the top front surface. Not much else is visible