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Agree 100%.Ground Effect wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 12:47I'm honestly confused by some of the Oscar bashing. Constructive criticism is always welcome and appreciated, but it has exceeded that. No matter your expectations of him, or the hype that was surrounding him, he's still in his 2nd year in F1. Does anyone remember Lando's second F1 season? He was still struggling with consistency in the races. The speed was there, you could tell he had potential, but he found it difficult to perform at a high level over race distance. He struggled with tyre management, first laps (clean start, but got bullied by those around him). But the most important quality he had, and Oscar has it as well, is bringing the car home. I'm happy with Oscar, has a lot to learn, but in my opinion, he's still very much on a positive trajectory, and over performing, if we look at the data, based on nbr of races he's competed in. It's because of this, it's very much game on in the constructors. There are some things you can only fix with experience.
I put it down to the social media culture of the time. Time gets compressed into recency bias - what happened at last week's GP supersedes the GP before. Many here looking for instant gratification are forgetting where we (McLaren) came from. Because we won at Miami and the "upgrades" appear to have worked mightily somehow that means we need a win each week - or someone to blame. I'm living the dream as a McLaren fan since Bruce first painted his cars papaya. I lived through the post Mosley depression of the FIA and it's hatred of a certain RD. I'm celebrating every time we get a podium, which I think stretches all the way back to China, 11 races ago.PapayaFan481 wrote: ↑29 Aug 2024, 09:59Agree 100%.Ground Effect wrote: ↑26 Aug 2024, 12:47I'm honestly confused by some of the Oscar bashing. Constructive criticism is always welcome and appreciated, but it has exceeded that. No matter your expectations of him, or the hype that was surrounding him, he's still in his 2nd year in F1. Does anyone remember Lando's second F1 season? He was still struggling with consistency in the races. The speed was there, you could tell he had potential, but he found it difficult to perform at a high level over race distance. He struggled with tyre management, first laps (clean start, but got bullied by those around him). But the most important quality he had, and Oscar has it as well, is bringing the car home. I'm happy with Oscar, has a lot to learn, but in my opinion, he's still very much on a positive trajectory, and over performing, if we look at the data, based on nbr of races he's competed in. It's because of this, it's very much game on in the constructors. There are some things you can only fix with experience.
I seriously don't understand some of the fans on here. Not just in this thread, but especially in here.
After all the years in the wilderness, we're finally back where we belong. We're fighting for wins on merit with 2 exciting young drivers pushing each other and the team onwards.
Why is there so much negativity towards one driver or the other??
(Towards Will Joseph I can kinda understand lol)
Why can't we all join in celebrating the success of McLaren??
Let's be honest, we've all had times over the past 12 years where we didn't think we'd get back here!!
Ferrari visibly lower-loaded. Hopefully they “mathed” this correctly. Might not be a big difference in quali with the drs, but will how things are looking I don’t see how they will be able to match Ferrari’s top speed without drs.
https://www.mclaren.com/racing/formula- ... e-to-monza“The team returned strongly last week, and now we’re ready to do it all again this weekend in Monza. We’ve gone over our learnings from Zandvoort to see what we can take through to this weekend as we have a very quick car, which makes it even more exciting.
“I’ve raced in Monza a few times in the junior series, and it’s one a lot of us enjoy due to how fast it is. I’m very much looking forward to racing in front of the Italian fans once again as it brings such a good atmosphere. We have a great opportunity to finish the double header in the best way possible.”
And Lando talking about the pressure he feels, going into each race weekend: https://www.racefans.net/2024/08/29/i-b ... tle-fight/“I think for myself, I’m still allowed to go for the best result possible even if that is winning the race myself.”
However Piastri said the situation is under regular review as McLaren strive to close the gap to Red Bull in both championships.
“Of course it will be taken on a week-by-week basis, depending on what the gap is, in some ways,” he said. “So for me it doesn’t change much.
“I will still go into every weekend trying to win the races if I can, because – okay, the chance for me is very, very tough, but it’s still not zero for myself even. So let’s see what the next few races hold, but it’s something that we will talk about quite a lot, I would imagine.”